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Author Topic: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)  (Read 56014 times)

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2010, 07:57:19 AM »

Robb's best friend had two a year or so ago, Robb was tittering about it.  There's a good chance they're long gone, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Your thinking of the 3 RVR manifolds.  They all went to ds-map guys. 

Dave W. proved the RVR>cyclone manifolds, Aero is just doing this for the fuck of it I think.

I'm looking for the 30-50 ft/lbs and earlier torque(and spool) VS the 1g manifold, with the possible slight high rpm loss vs the 1g manifold.  The high RPM power should be an upgrade over the POS 2g intake also.

I'd like to experiment with a rvr/evo3 too sometime.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2010, 10:41:09 PM »

Think I found one.

Then I just have to epoxy fill it to match the 2g head ports.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2010, 11:33:44 PM »

Making some progress finally. Stock 6 bolt motor until I get wiseco piston BS taken care of and my stroker back.


Stock high mileage 6 bolt bottom end.  Taken apart, inspected, cleaned up and reassembled.


Stock cams, high mileage head with new valve seals and new revised 3g lifters.



Mocking up the turbo and manifold, just for my benefit lol.





Got the cyclone intake manifold on the way, stock 2g till then.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2010, 06:52:21 PM »

I have a syclone intake mani. Just sitting under my bench. Has tb, and coil pack. Hit me up if you want it. I guess I will see what its worth :-\ I know it was off of a imported 7bolt though, so whoe the fuck knows what it is.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #64 on: July 30, 2010, 08:57:53 PM »

I have a syclone intake mani. Just sitting under my bench. Has tb, and coil pack. Hit me up if you want it. I guess I will see what its worth :-\ I know it was off of a imported 7bolt though, so whoe the fuck knows what it is.

I bought one for $100 shipped two days ago.  :(

Off a 7 bolt?  I'm curious now . AFAIK the cyclones were all on the 6 bolt large port motors. I'd love to see some pictures of it.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2010, 07:23:00 PM »

Got a few little things to do left. Some electrical  and cooling system stuff. Hope to get it started fire the first time  in almost 2 years tomorrow. Will do a little tuning on the dirt roads close to the farm. Then gotta get tags and insurance so I can really get into it.  Hopefully the stock head bolts and felpro hg will hold up as well a the jy bottom end.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #66 on: August 20, 2010, 09:07:33 PM »

Farm?  That's fucking awesome.  I grew up (partially) in a duplex owned by landed gentry aka a tobacco and corn farmer before big ag killed the little guy.  Pics pls, I fondly remember walking the pastures (horse and cow), the upper 40, the lower 40, and the mountainside adjacent as a child. You don't have mountains as you are a failure, but I'll forgive you if you show me your family spread.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #67 on: August 20, 2010, 10:15:27 PM »

I just realized I don't have any good ones. 

Its not a particularly pretty place. 140 acres of land. grow wheat mainly, 70 is covered by pasture from the CRP program.  Only livestock we have is a horse( my parents are hippy-ish vegetarians).  Most of our farm related stuff we do is local custom harvesting of wheat, soybeans and milo.

Half mile long driveway winding along the tree row.

Here are a couple shots of part of it from when I went flying over it last time.

My DSM is parked under the apricot tree just to the top of the three red combines lol. Which is where all the current work is being performed.





The windmill my dad built from scratch, mine and my brothers names painted on it.



Some more pictures of the place are here
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=745.0

I'll see about getting some more this weekend.  I didn't realize I had so few of so many memories.  :-[




 

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #68 on: August 20, 2010, 10:29:20 PM »

So Aero, have you determined the proper method to derive a usable ethanol-based fuel from your backyard?

You need to come hang out in the mountains. Up here a 5 acre spread of tobacco will make you a millionaire. Ten acres worth of mountainside will yield a decent return as a gated community investment. Nothing to harvest either.  :noel:



BTW, the windmill is fucking brilliant. Give your dad props from me.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2010, 12:23:04 PM »

Awesome.  Wandering fields is the absolute best shit to do as a child.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2010, 03:59:32 PM »

So Aero, have you determined the proper method to derive a usable ethanol-based fuel from your backyard?

You need to come hang out in the mountains. Up here a 5 acre spread of tobacco will make you a millionaire. Ten acres worth of mountainside will yield a decent return as a gated community investment. Nothing to harvest either.  :noel:



BTW, the windmill is fucking brilliant. Give your dad props from me.
Agree 100% on the growing up out there.  Kids can entertain themselves forever outdoors. I wouldn't have had it any other way.


Around here corn is the only common way. There is quite a bit of corn, but its mostly irrigated and we don't own any of that yet.

The car I call my DD currently is a 75 300D, its got dual tank grease kit. I run it quite a bit on used hydraulic fluid out of all the farm equipment.  So thats right along that idea lol.

 So went to try and start the car and couldn't get a crank signal to the MS.  Turns out water got in the CAS an ruined the crank side of it.  Going to pick one up from a CL ad locally here in an hour or so. Will try again tomorrow.  Got a bunch of electrical gremlins to fix too.  For some reason turning the key to start wont send any power to the starter solenoid.  I know mice got into the car from sitting outside, I'm hoping they didn't chew anything important. Fuckers.

I've made so many little changes to the car remembering everything is a real bitch after almost 2 years of not messing with it.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2010, 01:34:10 PM »

The engine bay/harness of the porsche gets sprayed down with glass cleaner twice a year to keep mice out. Works pretty well.

I want a CAS in my hands that died from getting wet, wanna find out why they do it.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2010, 10:35:33 PM »

I'll keep that trick in mind, with a DSM its bound to happen sometime.

So I got the CAS thing fixed, except for needing a new connector, the one I got with the CAS is half broken and I don't trust it. My old one was a 90, and the replacment is a 91+ with a different connector.  Anyone have a junk 2.0 1g 91-94 DSM laying around with a good connector?


Got it running, like ass( nearly 2 year old E85, needing tuning badly), after running it for 5 minutes or so I found a nice size hole in the radiator.  The plastic endtanks on it are in bad shape too, but still bad timing.  I've seen a few DSM guys use aftermarket thicker half size civic radiators.  Would really work better for me with the turbo that I have.  The huge hotside sitting so close to the radiator contributes heavily to my overheating problems, and the space would be nice.  Anyone have any input on those?  Otherwise I need to just find a stock one.

The geometry is a bit different losing the 6mm extra deck heigh of the 2.4l, and I'm sure some other small differenced so I'm going to have to cut off the top of my homemade solid motor mount and weld a plate onto it for reinforcement since it hits the inlet of the turbo now. lol
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2010, 05:08:25 PM »

Vw scirocco rad is the shit. Should work on a 2g. Id go for that before the honda unit. I think jd is running one on his drag car.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2010, 08:28:20 PM »


So I got the CAS thing fixed, except for needing a new connector, the one I got with the CAS is half broken and I don't trust it. My old one was a 90, and the replacment is a 91+ with a different connector.  Anyone have a junk 2.0 1g 91-94 DSM laying around with a good connector?


take a pic of said connector..I may have one for ya
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2010, 09:06:22 PM »

Vw scirocco rad is the shit. Should work on a 2g. Id go for that before the honda unit. I think jd is running one on his drag car.

I will look into that.  Anything that still cools well and gets me a bit more clearance with the turbine housing. I've only got about 1.5" or so as it is now.

take a pic of said connector..I may have one for ya

That would be awesome dude. Thanks.
The plug is shaped like this 4 pins.  Top left. http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclipsetech/justin/CASwiring.gif

Here is a picture of it.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2010, 09:17:11 PM »

Ill have to get back to you..it may be a few days before I get a chance to dig through my junkpile
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #77 on: August 25, 2010, 10:07:46 PM »

Ill have to get back to you..it may be a few days before I get a chance to dig through my junkpile

No hurry man. Thank you.


So I solved the motor mount/compressor inlet interference problem tho CHMT way.  :noel:

Lopped off the top of the mount with the chop saw.



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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2010, 10:51:40 AM »

nice to see some progress, i predict your headgasket goes out on first ripper of 15 pounds.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2010, 01:24:53 PM »

nice to see some progress, i predict your headgasket goes out on first ripper of 15 pounds.

With my luck probably lol. It SHOULD hold WAY more than that though, if nothing is wrong lol. Knock on wood.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2010, 01:37:17 PM »

which felpro are you running? mls or the composite one?
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2010, 02:43:28 PM »

which felpro are you running? mls or the composite one?

Stock style composite.  Quite a few people have used it and done ok. 

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2010, 02:59:36 PM »

which felpro are you running? mls or the composite one?

Stock style composite.  Quite a few people have used it and done ok. 

I'm using a topline composite with arp studs. I'm too cheap for metal.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2010, 05:32:38 PM »

which felpro are you running? mls or the composite one?

Stock style composite.  Quite a few people have used it and done ok. 

I'm using a topline composite with arp studs. I'm too cheap for metal.

The composites hold pretty damn well on these engines.  I just hope the head was flat ad didn't have some imperfections in the sealing area. 

I've got the Cometic MLS that was on my stroker, but it is thicker and an 87mm bore. I wanted to keep as much compression as possible with the 7.8:1 stock 1g pistons since I'm running E85.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2010, 11:41:46 PM »

Looks like youre doing some real good stuff with the car, can't wait to see the results with the VGT.
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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2010, 10:57:22 AM »

So she runs. Fighting tuning problems though.
My fucking LC-1 isn't working worth a shit.  Doesn't read right, both a free air cal and sensor heater cal didn't do shit.  Sometimes it will stick at one extreme or another for a while. Sometimes stuck at 12.01.  Wont communicate with the computer on the serial port no matter what I do so I can check it or the settings.

I've checked grounds and added a few to help with offsets.

Won't be buying anymore innovate products I've heard too many issues like that. Gonna get something else.

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #86 on: September 22, 2010, 11:25:50 AM »

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #87 on: September 22, 2010, 01:42:56 PM »

Or a 14point7 SLC  ;D

I hope to have a review of it up soon.  :yes:

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #88 on: September 23, 2010, 07:31:06 AM »

The SLC is what I'm looking at actually.   Get that review up damn it!

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Re: 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Holset HE351VE VGT Build thread. (No 56K)
« Reply #89 on: September 23, 2010, 08:19:27 AM »

The SLC is what I'm looking at actually.   Get that review up damn it!
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