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Author Topic: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?  (Read 11926 times)

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2014, 10:40:26 AM »

Does it at least work?
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2014, 12:03:21 PM »

Havent tried it yet, honestly.  I was super pissed at the guy.  Took like 6 months to get it to me. 

Hes even a white boy. Douche.








OK question for anyone reading a long.  Lets say you have a COP box designed to drive a 4 wire Audi 1.8T coil pack.  Can that same box drive a D17 or Honda 3 wire coil? 

IIRC the Honda coils have an ignitor in them as well, dont they?  Or no?


I ask because I am slightly tempted to try installing the COP box, and I have D17 coils with pigtails ready to go.  I do have 4x Audi coils but no piggies and I think at least one coil is pooched.  Would rather use Honda.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2014, 03:58:44 AM »

Well you fuckers lit a fire under my ass.  And today, I made my wiring harness for some Audi coils.

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2014, 11:29:53 AM »

Nice! What ecu are you using, keep us updated please
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2014, 11:30:34 AM »

I'm going to wire the mini very soon here
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2014, 12:35:29 PM »

do work gentle-nogs :noel:

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2014, 01:43:43 PM »

That harness right there is going to be using a P06 ecu thats chipped running my boosted D15.

The COP box plugs into the wires that go no where coming out of that OBD1 connector.  I just stole the connector from an EG so I can change the harness in the future if I ever want to, without having to track down pins to re-crimp.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2014, 08:23:37 PM »

last question but whats the p06 chipped on? I like the use of the spare plug, good work
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2014, 09:18:28 PM »

I run ectune but this could run on a stock ECU.  Apparently the P06 is the worst to use it on because the processor is slower or some jazz like that.  Meh. We will see.

Also from my research it looks like the D17 coils have an ICM so they work just fine with this setup.  Thats why I had the OBD1 plug on there... The VW wire is so janky.

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2014, 02:26:23 PM »

I had this running as a test on my MR2 with the Honda ECU back in 2009 or so:


It just takes the IGT signal and splits it out to 4 (or however many you want, up to 10) separate ignition channels, while using the edge of that signal to increment the coil counter. You have to tap the input of IC10 (I think, I forget which pin it was) to get the logic-level CYP signal for sync. It uses an edge detector to pick up the CYP signal, which resets the counter and it's sync'd from then on.

The BIP373s were for driving dumb ignition coils. The logic output of the 4081 will drive any coil with a built-in igniter. I used QR25 coils, but it worked with k-series coils on the bench as well.

Only problem is that it won't work with ignition cut rev limits. I have another version that I half-ass worked on that would use either IGT or TDC to increment the counter, but I never tried it out. It took forever to start too. Would probably fire up faster if you batch fire the coils during cranking. Not a difficult addition to make.

If someone wanted to pick it up and finish development, feel free.

Wanna hear some insane shit? The 4AGE kids built their own COP setups and just batch fired the coils full-time. *shudder*
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