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Well I have been putting parts together for a while now and thing are falling inline. Got my block back from the shop a few weeks ago.......


here is the set up.

B18a1 81.5 boreed, honed, and balanced
wiseco -12cc dished pistons
TunerToys rods
Skank 2 single valve springs
Ported polarbeartuning OBD1 intake manifold
70-68mm polarbeartuning throttle body spacer
74mm  polarbeartuning throttle body
Delta Cams Regrind 272/260 turbo cams
LSD dragger street disck and clutch
Garrett To4e 40trim
ebay 38mm wg
arp head studs
Eville140 splog
Weir traction bar kit
750cc injectors..... and so on


























I got my bearings from majestic. I was gona use the acl's but it was too much extra money/work.


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Well got the bearings in and they all fit very well and are in specs. SO now I hade to hone the small end of the TT rods to get my pison pins to fit. Witch is normal.

brake hone

It was a snug fit.

mounted the drill in the vice.
I did it a few differant times to make sure that I didnt get in there and just go overboard with it.



Now that the lower end was done it was assmbled, it was time to do the top end.

Went to napa and grabbed some laping compound

Pulled the head out and stripped it clean of all the internmals

Lapping this shit by hand was a real pain.

So the I took the lapper and put it on the grinder and chucked it into my drill.



Then I lapped the ever loving life out of them!!!!!!!!!


turned out pretty good SO I put the spring seats back in and put the new valve stem seals in.
Pulled out my skank 2 valve springs Thanks 88DX

Side by side the skank 2's are so much beafer than the stock its not even funny.


the head went back together, everything was nice and tight.

so it was time for some paint.

Looks way to much like mexican chrome


So I striped it back down to repaint low gloss black like the block.
While I was wating for it to dry I checked out the oil pump and it was withing spec. so I painted it

and put it on


I put the head studs in and now I need to go to the store and pick up some more low gloss black paint.



It runs!!!!!!!!!! but it wont move :'( :'( :'(


something is screwed up with the clutch that I got from LSD???? The sprung center section from the p.plate hits the clutch disk and it wonte let my cluth disingage/engage??? I have already sent them a pm, and a email. Here are the pics......








Turns out that mike at lsd had someone other than the normal clutch builder build a few of his clutches and the pp center would hit the disk springs when you pushed in the clutch.  So he shipped me one that was good. Keep an eye out for some more updates.  :yes:


« Last Edit: September 15, 2010, 03:34:05 PM by ratcityrex »
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 09:18:19 AM »

So mike at lsd took care of the clutch and I now have about 1200miled on it. I did a comp check the other day and its 175 across the board. I took it to the track last summer and it rar a 15.1@ 91mph. Not bad for some 2.3 60' and 8.0:1 compres.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2009, 01:50:25 PM by ratcityrex »
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Re: MY B18 BIG BLACK PROJECT........ 56k NO WAY!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 09:20:58 AM »

what paint did you use on the block? looks great. I'm going to do that on the two motors i'm building right now.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 09:38:41 AM »

It was some paint I picked up at the auto parts store. It was LOW gloss black. Not flat. I will update this tread later today when I get home. I have a few new pics. Im almost done turboing it
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 11:19:26 AM »

I like the build.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 11:32:15 AM »

so you sent the bad clutch back and got a 6 puck?  how is the pedal feel on that? what is the max torque rating?

I need a new clutch so bad! I've been talking to mike about a dragger 6 puck for the longest time. just need to suck it up and quit spending elsewhere.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 11:42:19 AM »

so you sent the bad clutch back and got a 6 puck?  how is the pedal feel on that? what is the max torque rating?

I need a new clutch so bad! I've been talking to mike about a dragger 6 puck for the longest time. just need to suck it up and quit spending elsewhere.


No, Im using the street disk. I orderd the dragger clutch w/street disk from him, he sent the 6 puck disk for a 92-00 b trans, I sent it back, got the dragger disk for a 90-91, it fit but the clutch fingers hit where the springs on the disk are , and then he sent me a anther street disk that fit.  :o


I love it, its a cable trans and it feels great. I didn realy want to step up to the 6puck and the street disk with the dragger clutch hold 332 ft/lb Torque. If I have that much torque Ill be happy.....lol That should put me well over 400hp at the wheels witch is about 50hp over my goal
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Re: MY B18 BIG BLACK PROJECT........ 56k NO WAY!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2009, 02:47:27 PM »

I've never rebuilt a Honda motor, or even a FI (been around carbs), but I have a D15 I wanna rebuild for a DD, and what I wanna know is, do you have to do anything with the ECU? What I mean by that is, can you just unplug/plug it back in, and it will run like new?

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2009, 02:50:48 PM »

I've never rebuilt a Honda motor, or even a FI (been around carbs), but I have a D15 I wanna rebuild for a DD, and what I wanna know is, do you have to do anything with the ECU? What I mean by that is, can you just unplug/plug it back in, and it will run like new?



Shouldnt have to do anything as long as you dont go making any huge changes to cams or injectors.
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009, 02:54:52 PM »

I've never rebuilt a Honda motor, or even a FI (been around carbs), but I have a D15 I wanna rebuild for a DD, and what I wanna know is, do you have to do anything with the ECU? What I mean by that is, can you just unplug/plug it back in, and it will run like new?



Shouldnt have to do anything as long as you dont go making any huge changes to cams or injectors.

Alright, so stock cam, and if I get them flow tested/replaced, I'm in the clear? Cool stuff

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2009, 03:23:15 PM »

Alright, so stock cam, and if I get them flow tested/replaced, I'm in the clear? Cool stuff


stock cam is fine. just put the injectors in. Dont go geting them flow tested. IMO its a waste of money for just a stock setup.
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 03:50:56 PM »

SO the car now has 1200 or so miles on it. It runs tip top. About 36ish mpg on the hwy, and 25 in town. 4 months ago I switched it over to obd1 chiped the po6, and all that jazz. I then pulled it back in to the garage about a month ago, swaped to some hasport mounts I traded for some parts, and to do a wire tuck.  :-X I wil never ever do such a thing again. It was the bigest pain in the ass, and a big waste of time. It looks really nice though....lol Still have some cleaning of the bay to do.

So im working on this thing at about the rate of 2 hours a day. It is taking forever to do all this. But I picked up a splog from randy (evilli140) thing looks great.

SO I finished my down pipe last week

I also put a cutout in that im later gona have a 75mm mustang tb with a choke cable set up so I can open it on the fly

After that I torched my front bumper and mounted my way to small for my powere goal intercooler

On friday 3-5-09 I knocked out the charge pipes, and they now just have to be painted

Oh and by the way my garage is a total wreck....lol



So now im on the hunt for a new radiator. I dont realy want to run my halfcore due to the fact that im gona have to gangster lean the hell out of it to make it fit with my traction bar being so girthy. But I think i can get a 85-92 vw golf radiator to fit. Its 1.5"X13"X24" and it has 1.25" in and out just like the b18 and they are on the same side. Well see If I can pick one up cheep localy.
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

Old Setup B18a1 296hp/289tq LEED Tuned 20psi on pump! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yj-Z90j4W4 
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Re: MY B18 BIG BLACK PROJECT........ 56k NO WAY!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 04:22:12 PM »

Nice build broham, love the lotsa pics... can you talk a little about installing the valve train in the head? It's the only thing I havent done yet on a car.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 04:53:30 PM »

good stuff. im also in the process of building my ls. what are you horse power goals for this setup
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 04:58:46 PM »

350 at the wheels. Im running my to4e 40trim and I think thats about the max that thing is gona push. It will ony do about 20psi. Jdmhatchracer94 is doing about the same build as me too but I dont know what turbo hes gona run, I donth think he knows eather....lol
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 11:29:47 PM »

You didn't paint your water pump :(

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 11:29:56 PM »

in for the up dates

and why is this not in FI?
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 12:28:32 AM »

looks great what are the power goals? just gonna be a daily driver?
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2009, 10:30:51 AM »

sure as hell don't know. Lookin sexy man
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2009, 10:44:20 AM »

Shooting for 350whp on pump, and yes its my dd. I didnt paint the water pump, to b honest, i ran out of paint so thats why it didnt get painted.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2009, 02:47:50 PM »

good stuff.

350 on pump shouldnt be a problem. i have 310whp @ 15psi on a stock cam D
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2009, 02:55:44 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2009, 03:31:36 PM »

Skank9 valvesprings on an LS scare me.

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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2009, 06:54:04 PM »

Skank9 valvesprings on an LS scare me.

But im just running some delta 272/260 regrinds. They dont have any more lift that stock. It the break, well fuck guess ill be getting some new ones. 88dx took these onse to god knows how many 8k rev limiter action with them.
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2009, 08:31:25 PM »

That shits baller son. 
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2009, 08:40:07 PM »

Thanks mang ;)

Got a little work done today. And I mean little, Like 2 o2 bungs welded in :yes:
Then I couldnt handle a dirty garage any more and kinda straightend up.
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2009, 06:55:25 AM »

Did you changed you cam shaft or I missed that part?

I like you built, I can't wait to build mine  ;D Maybe I'll start next week if I have time.

O2 sensor is useless, I tune it like I feel it lol ;) I really don't have a O2 sensor, I never had the time to weld the bungs...

My basemap > xenocron :P
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2009, 08:45:26 AM »

Did you changed you cam shaft or I missed that part?

No Im running my stock cams, but I have a brand new set of deltas that im going to put in. I want to do just my basic street tune, then put the cams in and see how big of a diff they make. Im not going to do a real in depth just a basic tune.

O2 sensor is useless, I tune it like I feel it lol ;) I really don't have a O2 sensor, I never had the time to weld the bungs...

My basemap > xenocron :P

Go ahead and run 20ish psi with no o2 sensor and let me know how that works out for you  :-X

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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2009, 09:31:34 AM »

It's worked great so far for all the people I've personally tuned. 20psi on a dirty D still doing 35+ if they don't get on it.

open loop all the time.

Where you located at? We need to have an E. Washington mini meet or something.

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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2009, 10:45:17 AM »

wow you must have some steady hand to lap those valves using a drill like that lmao
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