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[Whitey]

Ceiling height should always be based on how deep your pockets are for heating costs during the winter. Unless your going wood stove.

I helped build my moms new house a couple years ago. Flat ceiling 9'. Gas heat. Costs her damn near a fortune in the winter. Now with higher gas prices its not really going to do anything but get worse.

I would run 8' ceilings and call it a day. Make an attic and just insulate the shit out of it.

The walls are already studded out with 9' studs so the lowest ceiling I could run is 9 foot.  I've got a wood stove so that puts out a lot of heat.  My uncle has a 5300sqft house with vaulted ceilings and his electric bill was always around $400 a month with his heat pump.  So I'm only heating half of that and I'd be happy with a $400 heating and electric bill

With the 2 roof lines over 8', I don't know if I've seen two angles of ceiling going to a flat at any height other than an attic loft or something. It could work, and 10' is always a good ceiling height, and would still leave some room for an attic storage above, but that 2' of roof line between your walls and your flat ceiling will be an in between wall/ceiling. It can work, but I'm not envisioning the finished deal.

Here's a picture of what I'm doing to the ceiling in my great room looking at the kitchen.  9' walls, sloped ceiling to a height of 15' 

[Stealthmode]

That looks good.


Next question, who's painting it? lol

[Whitey]

That looks good.


Next question, who's painting it? lol

Unfortunately me.  I don't know how you do it for a living, I hate painting with a passion. 

[Stealthmode]

What's your painting budget to have it done in half the time it'd take you to do by yourself? I fly free, I'm a fan of good food, and my slower months are approaching. 

[ratcityrex]

FUCK YEAH! Stealth on the expansion!

[Whitey]

Started on the main roof and the outside 1" foam



For the bedroom I set the ceiling height at 13.5' and put a combo half moon and picture window

[crxvtec91]

Baddass, continue on!

[92CXyD]

Baddass, continue on!

This 

[1CRX2NV]

Ceiling height should always be based on how deep your pockets are for heating costs during the winter. Unless your going wood stove.

I helped build my moms new house a couple years ago. Flat ceiling 9'. Gas heat. Costs her damn near a fortune in the winter. Now with higher gas prices its not really going to do anything but get worse.

I would run 8' ceilings and call it a day. Make an attic and just insulate the shit out of it.

The walls are already studded out with 9' studs so the lowest ceiling I could run is 9 foot.  I've got a wood stove so that puts out a lot of heat.  My uncle has a 5300sqft house with vaulted ceilings and his electric bill was always around $400 a month with his heat pump.  So I'm only heating half of that and I'd be happy with a $400 heating and electric bill

With the 2 roof lines over 8', I don't know if I've seen two angles of ceiling going to a flat at any height other than an attic loft or something. It could work, and 10' is always a good ceiling height, and would still leave some room for an attic storage above, but that 2' of roof line between your walls and your flat ceiling will be an in between wall/ceiling. It can work, but I'm not envisioning the finished deal.

Here's a picture of what I'm doing to the ceiling in my great room looking at the kitchen.  9' walls, sloped ceiling to a height of 15' 

I actually like that design. Wood is/will be much cheaper. Not as easy on the back,but easier on the wallet.

I notice the foam around the perimeter of the house. You going brick or siding or a combination of both? Also can't tell from the picture,but did you Moisture barrier it with some home wrap?

I know you guys get some nasty weather. Do your building codes require Ice shield or whatever for a roofing layer?

[Whitey]

I actually like that design. Wood is/will be much cheaper. Not as easy on the back,but easier on the wallet.

I notice the foam around the perimeter of the house. You going brick or siding or a combination of both? Also can't tell from the picture,but did you Moisture barrier it with some home wrap?

I know you guys get some nasty weather. Do your building codes require Ice shield or whatever for a roofing layer?

I'm doing a combination of stacked stone and stucco on the outside.  I'm thinking of a light stone and a darker tan/brown stucco.  I don't need a house wrap cause the 1" foam has foil on the ID and OD.  I may tape the seams of the foam but its not required.  I did add expandable foam to any joint where I couldn't get any insulation in.  For the roofing we're doing ice shields in the valleys. 

A little update here's the progress on the main roof from the back of the house.  You can also see we backfilled the house but the ground slope still isn't at final grade, that's still up in the air:



Front of the house, still have another dormer coming out for the porch that's not framed out yet:




Setting the collar ties for the ceiling height in the great room:





It's getting built as we go along so any suggestions or idea's on what you would do I'd like to hear it. 

[ratcityrex]

Fuck man, Looks good! What are your overhang soffet lengths?

[1CRX2NV]

Looking great from the pictures. Really moving along.. Atleast till you rap everything up and realize your an 1" 1/2 out of square..LOL..   

Keep it up..

[Whitey]

Fuck man, Looks good! What are your overhang soffet lengths?

The overhangs off the dormers are 18" finished.  The main roof has a 22" overhang and the garage/bedroom has a 16" overhang.  That was the only way the facia would line up with a 7:12 pitch main roof and a 10 1/4:12 pitch on the other roof

Looking great from the pictures. Really moving along.. Atleast till you rap everything up and realize your an 1" 1/2 out of square..LOL..   

Keep it up..

Even if its out of square we'll make it work.  As long as the drywall works out everything will be fine

[88dx]

WTF I thought all us RHMT nogs lived in single wide trailers 

[Whitey]

Me putting the plywood on the roof:




plywood on the main roof done:




That cunt Sandy trying to drop a tree on my progress.  Missed by about 35 feet:



2" of water in the house:



Another 100 year old oak taken out by Sandy:




Another broken oak.  The double red dot means the loggers wanted to take it cause it was worth some money. I told them to fuck off cause I liked it.  Go figure it falls over less than a year later.

[ratcityrex]

Man it looks like you lucked out. Could have been pretty Shitty to have a huge tree fall right in the middle of your progress.

[turbohf]

Man it looks like you lucked out. Could have been pretty Shitty to have a huge tree fall right in the middle of your progress.

fuck yeah. buzzkill. a big ass like 150ft'er missed my dads house by like 2ft one time, pucker.


looks good nog, keep it up!

[random-strike]

looks like its going to be a pretty sweet house

[crxvtec91]

Glad you made out ok!

[brine04]

WTF I thought all us RHMT nogs lived in single wide trailers 

Poor ass. I got a double wide... on a basement 

[hotrex]

obviously rectum

[stealthiskey]

Wow that looks amazing!  you doing it all yourself, even the excavation and concrete?  Did you have to hire an architect/engineer to check out the plans/wind loads/all that?

[Whitey]

Wow that looks amazing!  you doing it all yourself, even the excavation and concrete?  Did you have to hire an architect/engineer to check out the plans/wind loads/all that?

I subcontracted the excavation and the basement concrete and that's it.  I did all the houseplan prints myself without an architect.  Luckily the township didn't require stamped prints,  Its just more overbuilt if anything, 2x12 floor joists, 2x10 roof rafters, 10" concrete walls, ect.   

[ironcrx]

Wow that looks amazing!  you doing it all yourself, even the excavation and concrete?  Did you have to hire an architect/engineer to check out the plans/wind loads/all that?

I subcontracted the excavation and the basement concrete and that's it.  I did all the houseplan prints myself without an architect.  Luckily the township didn't require stamped prints,  Its just more overbuilt if anything, 2x12 floor joists, 2x10 roof rafters, 10" concrete walls, ect.

Since you get to enjoy hurricanes like we do in the south, maybe your overbuilding is worthwhile 

[Whitey]

Framing up the porch:

[hatchboy]

In for hotrex sighting.

[accordepicenter]

the progress looks amazing!  Wow, 160k for 5 acres? Where are you building this? Thats seriously spendy for 5 acres unless youre in the middle of a trendy town or somthing.  In the countryside out here you can score property usually for 1-2.5k an acre.  But this is also in the vast wasteland that is called upstate ny

[Whitey]

the progress looks amazing!  Wow, 160k for 5 acres? Where are you building this? Thats seriously spendy for 5 acres unless youre in the middle of a trendy town or somthing.  In the countryside out here you can score property usually for 1-2.5k an acre.  But this is also in the vast wasteland that is called upstate ny

Real estate is all location location location.  The same time I bought my property in 2010, a lot down the street went for $165,000 for 3 acres.  I feel I got a good deal or at least paid retail for my lot and its in an area that I would pay a premium for

[dvst8r]

the progress looks amazing!  Wow, 160k for 5 acres? Where are you building this? Thats seriously spendy for 5 acres unless youre in the middle of a trendy town or somthing.  In the countryside out here you can score property usually for 1-2.5k an acre.  But this is also in the vast wasteland that is called upstate ny

Real estate is all location location location...

This.

Around here 160K might get you a lot for a townhouse.

[Passenger]

the progress looks amazing!  Wow, 160k for 5 acres? Where are you building this? Thats seriously spendy for 5 acres unless youre in the middle of a trendy town or somthing.  In the countryside out here you can score property usually for 1-2.5k an acre.  But this is also in the vast wasteland that is called upstate ny

Real estate is all location location location...

This.

Around here 160K might get you a lot for a townhouse.

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160k here won't buy you dirt of any type of size. Dirt for a townhome is 200k+ I have a couple friends that have recently bought new townhomes that are 430-500k. They are pretty nice though.