:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: ratcityrex on June 27, 2012, 08:25:24 PM
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66 nova 2 door. No motor or trans.....
SO lets go back to 1986.......
I was 6 years old. Uncle was a pretty big gear head. He was in his eairly 20's at the time. Had this car, put in and pulled out 3+ motors and trans, rearends ect. Parked it in my grandmothers garage, pulled the motor. Was having it built at a shop. In the mean time he pulled all the interior, had it all redone and put it back in. Then he died. Grandmother inharted the car. Sat that way untill 2002 untill she died. My dad moves into the house in 02 and has hopes and dreams of doing something with it one day. Fast forward to 2009 he sees me fucking with the hondas and thinks Im a Rice burner dumb ass. I tell him Im gonna make 300whp in my crx, He laughfs. Sees me do it and says wow. Tell him I could do big number in the nova and he says whatever. Then sees me put down 400+ in the integra and now the bug is set in him that I can accutly do it. So needless to say I got a call today saying to come pick this thing up and do something with it. Its been sitting on jack stands for 26years.
Looking for Ideas. I know I want to get in turn the key and do burnouts, and drive it 500 miles and not have to worry about shit. So Fuel INjected. It will be NA for now, So Im thinking LSx, but other than that I dont know shit..... Want to do it on the budget scale as always. Havent seen this car in over 20+ yeas as its had blankets and boxes stack on it since 198X
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lq4 can be had cheaper, and love to be breathed on from what everyone says.
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Thread is worthless without pics. I always dug novas.
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orrrr.....
you could sell it to me! It would look awful nice parked next to my 70 Nova...
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Yeah, it is worthless with out pics. And it will be a few months b4 I get any. Since my dad is working about 3k miles away in Alaska. I haven't even seen it un covered jb 20+ years. All I know is its rust free and the body was pretty straight. That was the one deal though. It can never be sold or leave the family. All I know is I want 400+ whp, decent mpg, handle half way decent and good brakes. Figure that not a huge reach.
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Do. A 496 so your nova can be like mine lol. Mines a 72 though
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Practically any stock LSx type motor will have the balls (torque) of a carb'd 350, maybe a bit less than a basic 383/400, but will be much more fun to drive. Slap on some bolt-ons plus a cam and they're much better than 40yr old carb tech.
They bolt to a th350/th400 with a few $ in easy to buy parts, and the modern trannys will adapt to the car nearly the same way. For a few bones you can get a full engine harness where you only need to feed the engine +12V and the ignition wires. From there you can stay stock-ish, or use the EMS options for bolt-ons, turbos, blowers, etc.
That's my future plan for by 67 bird, stuff in a 5.3L (since it's a 326 HO trim car) so its a quick DD, then build from there. The actual motor will only be 1/3 of the overall cost, so it's usually best to pick what you want.
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4.8 or 5.3 truck motor. MSD box for the ignition and a cheap ass megasquirt 1 for fueling. No dealing with the stock harness or hp tuners stuff.
TH400 tranny and a good sized turbo. 600whp is actually pretty safe on a stock motor. Some guys have pushed them wayyy farther than that.
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I will probably stick with a stock ecu and harness for what ever LSx I put in it. But thats the rout I would like to go. Will probably just throw a cam and some headers and some exhaust and enjoy it that way until I get board. As far as trans, I would like to have a 4l60 or a manual. But will probably end up with a th400. It just blows me away how much the Mustang II front end is for these things. I need to find a rhmt way to build it on the budget and make it handle and stop well.
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I will probably stick with a stock ecu and harness for what ever LSx I put in it. But thats the rout I would like to go. Will probably just throw a cam and some headers and some exhaust and enjoy it that way until I get board. As far as trans, I would like to have a 4l60 or a manual. But will probably end up with a th400. It just blows me away how much the Mustang II front end is for these things. I need to find a rhmt way to build it on the budget and make it handle and stop well.
You can find an actual mustang II subframe and swap it in. Won't be bolt in but probably only cost you $100 or $200. Then the time to fab it in. Discs in the front drums in the back will be fine.
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I will probably stick with a stock ecu and harness for what ever LSx I put in it. But thats the rout I would like to go. Will probably just throw a cam and some headers and some exhaust and enjoy it that way until I get board. As far as trans, I would like to have a 4l60 or a manual. But will probably end up with a th400. It just blows me away how much the Mustang II front end is for these things. I need to find a rhmt way to build it on the budget and make it handle and stop well.
You can find an actual mustang II subframe and swap it in. Won't be bolt in but probably only cost you $100 or $200. Then the time to fab it in. Discs in the front drums in the back will be fine.
Wont find any of those around here in the yard. Disk/drum is all i planned on unless I go with a 9" down the road. It has a 10bolt in it now which will hold up on the street just fine i think.
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Yeah, as long as you don't hook the 10 bolt will be fine lol
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Yeah, as long as you don't hook the 10 bolt will be fine lol
Depends on which 10 bolt it is, the 7.5 will prolly break, but the 8.5 might hold for a while on the street, esp if traction is limited. Sticky tires would shorten its life significantly...
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4.8 or 5.3 truck motor. MSD box for the ignition and a cheap ass megasquirt 1 for fueling. No dealing with the stock harness or hp tuners stuff.
That is tucking retarded. Why would you go through the hassle of wiring a ms to not control spark with it. Also, how exactly would you control a cop ignition system with a pos msd box?
Because its a plug and play. Easy as shit. Look up the MSD 6010, it controls the coils.
Lots of guys do this. I guess I'm not the only retarded one. lol
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4.8 or 5.3 truck motor. MSD box for the ignition and a cheap ass megasquirt 1 for fueling. No dealing with the stock harness or hp tuners stuff.
That is tucking retarded. Why would you go through the hassle of wiring a ms to not control spark with it. Also, how exactly would you control a cop ignition system with a pos msd box?
Because its a plug and play. Easy as shit. Look up the MSD 6010, it controls the coils.
Lots of guys do this. I guess I'm not the only retarded one. lol
Fuck that garbage!! Lots of guys also run train on ur asshole, but i'm not gonna jump on that bandwagon either.
Using that to control spark when running a ms for fuel is retarded and you are as well for suggesting it.
FUCK YOU
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Ok, you guys can suck each other later. But what is the DIY low budget crossmember/ifs setup to use? Fuck spending 3k for that shit. I need some greasy wrecking yard parts and and a welder and some steel stock. Point me in the direction!
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FUCK YOU
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Ok, you guys can suck each other later. But what is the DIY low budget crossmember/ifs setup to use? Fuck spending 3k for that shit. I need some greasy wrecking yard parts and and a welder and some steel stock. Point me in the direction!
We used the front from a 76 nova on the 65 we just did. The one that is posted in the fab section. Was cheap as fuck and worked really well. I got alot of pics of the process if you wanna see em.
Fuck yeah I want to see them! Post that shit up!
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FUCK YOU
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Love you too
Newer nova is a good option. What about an S10 subframe? They are cheap as hell and all over the place. Parts are cheap too.
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We used the front from a 76 nova on the 65 we just did. The one that is posted in the fab section. Was cheap as fuck and worked really well. I got alot of pics of the process if you wanna see em.
Fuck yeah I want to see them! Post that shit up!
Well.................
I sent you a pm too. Waiting to hear back nig!
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We used the front from a 76 nova on the 65 we just did. The one that is posted in the fab section. Was cheap as fuck and worked really well. I got alot of pics of the process if you wanna see em.
Fuck yeah I want to see them! Post that shit up!
Well.................
I sent you a pm too. Waiting to hear back nig!
ill get em posed up tonight. I've been workin 16 hours days for the last two weeks. finally got a couple days off starting tomorrow
Fuck yeah! OT!
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We used the front from a 76 nova on the 65 we just did. The one that is posted in the fab section. Was cheap as fuck and worked really well. I got alot of pics of the process if you wanna see em.
Fuck yeah I want to see them! Post that shit up!
Well.................
I sent you a pm too. Waiting to hear back nig!
ill get em posed up tonight. I've been workin 16 hours days for the last two weeks. finally got a couple days off starting tomorrow
Fuck yeah! OT!
What the hell is "OT"? :P >:(
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Overtime.......oh, wait you work for yourself. I know what that's like.
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My vote is fined a rolled truck, buy the whole thing as salvage pull out the engine and trans. This way you get the wiring harness the engine, and a 4l80e. Do some minor bolt on's and tuning for now, and then add boost later.
Part out rest of the truck for nearly what you paid for the truck.
Profit ???
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My vote is fined a rolled truck, buy the whole thing as salvage pull out the engine and trans. This way you get the wiring harness the engine, and a 4l80e. Do some minor bolt on's and tuning for now, and then add boost later.
Part out rest of the truck for nearly what you paid for the truck.
Profit ???
That's kinda what I was thinking too. But what ever I get ill pull apart and aspect it. Maybe do a quick ball hone, open the ring gap up, throw in some rod bolts, ect. Then slap her in and rip it na to straighten out all the little quarks. I'm more concerned with figuring out the suspension/brakes/front clip...
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Looks pretty straight forward. probably a lot easier when shit is in front of you and your ready to rock!
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Found this last night online this it also might be a good option....
http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/21906/ (http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/21906/)
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Mustang 2 is the best option imo.
Think that's the way ill end up going.
Contacted the dmv today about a lost title. Looks like its pretty easy.
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Thread is worthless without pics. I always dug novas.
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So I checked the car out this weekend at my dad's house. There are so many parts spread all over the place. Peaked under the car and the whole suspension is new. But since its been sitting for 24 years I'm pretty sure it's gonna need to be replaced anyways. Also looked inside the car, brand new valve covers in the back seat, along with a new timing chain set, and a brand new torquer intake manifold sitting on the floor. Gonna probably go get the car in another 2 weeks.
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What a mess, but I'd kill to have a relative hook me up with something like that.
My neighbor had a mid 60's nova and it was a great car. I like anything pre 80's though, older the cooler.
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Yeah it's a. Big mess. Had a flood nd they threw a bunch of Shit into the garage and on/next to the car. Got my reservation with the state patrol to verify the vin so I can put the car into my name, also reserved my car hauler for next Sunday. So looks like its actually gonna happen.
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So I went and got the car today, it's now resting in its new home in my garage. Overall the car is pretty straight. A few dents here and there but nothing to big. One good dent right in the rear, but I'm sure it can be pulled out with not to much effort. Will have to wait and see. Popped Yeh trunk and its full of parts. Didn't get a pic, but it looks like the radiator is in there along with a starter, master cyl, and a bunch of other randomness stuff, on to the pics......
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Around here that would be all bondo and flinstoned.
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Oh man thats badass! I love that one pic, you cant even tell there is a car in there!!!
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Around here that would be all bondo and flinstoned.
That's a fucking shame. I feel i'd rather watch one rust out in a field then see that. I see alot of that here too, rusting, sitting, "i'm working on it" when confronted with a cash offer, 5 years later fucking car is in the same spot with more rust and zero work put in. BOTH my dream cars were owned by a friend of mines dad. He was going to restore them, had them crushed for the scrap. 64 and 65 impalas. Jesus wept. The mexicun jesus.
Garage cleaned up well. I saw the car buried and ocd shit all over my face.
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Well I'm still torn. I have a baby on the way and is due in April. (first kid) and as I would like to dump lots of money in it I just don't see it happening. So I'm torn between selling some of the parts and trying to scrape some change together to buy a lq4 or just drop the running 327 I alread have into it and make it run and drive and enjoy it. I just know that I don't like to do Shit twice, and if I go to put the lq4 in it won't just be that. It will also be a turbo and a m2 front suspension, and everything else I want to do. So I'm kinda torn because I know with a kid on the way that will take years to get those kinda parts....
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Well I'm still torn. I have a baby on the way and is due in April. (first kid) and as I would like to dump lots of money in it I just don't see it happening. So I'm torn between selling some of the parts and trying to scrape some change together to buy a lq4 or just drop the running 327 I alread have into it and make it run and drive and enjoy it. I just know that I don't like to do Shit twice, and if I go to put the lq4 in it won't just be that. It will also be a turbo and a m2 front suspension, and everything else I want to do. So I'm kinda torn because I know with a kid on the way that will take years to get those kinda parts....
I would do what is need to get it running first! Putting a lq4 will be a lot more work and I dont see it being that cheap.
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I try to keep shit running, mobile, and enjoyable while I stockpile parts for a bigger project.
My shit still ends up torn down and sitting way too often for way too long
Some people can juggle the family, work, and hobby but I find my car is always last.
I say throw the 327 in while you stockpile parts for the lq4 and whatever else you want.
When you leave a car torn down to do it all right the first time, its easy to be abandoned.
Your uncle and dad both demonstrated that, how many years did it sit?
I finally started back on my camaro after around 8 years, if it had been running it would have been a lot more fun those years then sitting in a barn getting dirty and smelly.
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cars that sit make me want to sell them. and/or pile up parts that i may or maynot need or use. lol.
love cars that drive. shit even if they dont do it so well.
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Im torn though. I HATE having to do the same thing on a car more than once. I peaked around under the car a little more today, and the gas tank is fucked. Its completely rotted through. So since im gonna have to replace the tank I think im gonna set up the new tank for a sump for the future. So Ill probably set up a inline pump, and cap the return port that I will put on the tank. One mod im going to for sure do is power brakes and a disk conversion on the front. I want this car to at least be able to stop.
Tim, its been sitting since 1986, So 26 years...
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This thread helped me "reconnect" with my high school project car, a 67 firebird. Finally got it from storage & into my garage. Sat 3 yrs and fired second crank, but zero brakes. Yours has a lot less body work to do tho. Both ours have fucked up rears too, on opposite sides.
The SBC is easy as shit to get working, and carbs can be had for cheap. I built my motor myself (at age 17) and had locals do the carb & tranny for less than a stock B18B rebuild. Tuning them is easy too, even w/o a wideband. Rebuild it to get it rolling, do the necessary stuff, then focus on making it project 8sec_quarter_mile.
Oddly enough your garage pic isnt' much different from mine, car on left with Honda trans/engines to the right and in front:
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Yeah, can't/dont want to do anything to this car untill I get it in my name. I have a state patrol inspection on the 29th. After that it's fair game. Think I'm gonna slap the new big valve heads on the 327 and throw it in and go from there. The only upgrade that have to happen b4 anything else will be putting disks on the front.
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If they're similar to mine, finned drums, they will stop like a bitch. If you're doing it over and over maybe not. I have something like 235/60/15's on it too, not some old skinny bullshit. The unibody cars aren't as fat as the full-size pigs were, but used similar brakes.
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the drums only work once or twice (high speed stopping) after that you got nothing.
disks in front will make a huge difference
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Yeah, looking at a budget brake build for it. Some used corvette calipers(front&rear), suburban master cyl, civic brake booster, and corvette rotors. Have to do a little more measuring to see whats up. But I think it will all work out.
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That's a money brake build.
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I can get most all of that for under 300 at the local pick and pull. If worst comes to worst, I'll step down from the corvette rotors and calipers and go with the 12" camaro rotors, and camaro calipers.
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You don't need to do it twice. Just do the bare minimum to make it a runner but do it right.
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you can buy a front brake disk kit from summit for a couple hundred dollars. no fuss no muss
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you can buy a front brake disk kit from summit for a couple hundred dollars. no fuss no muss
Kinda spendy, more than a couple hundred.....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CLP-6769SWBKS/?rtype=10 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CLP-6769SWBKS/?rtype=10)
And then this
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-BK1323-X/ (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-BK1323-X/)
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yea i was thinking around 500 is what we paid for the camaro front disks. its worth it though
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Fucking dumb bitch at the dmv! She told me to make an appointment with the state patrol after I told her its a rolling shell with no motor, transmission, bumpers or grill. She said I have to take it there to have them sign off on the paperwork (which she gave me) for me to start the lost title process. So i did. month and a half later her i am, my appointment day (thats how long the wait time is) So I rented a trailer again to tow this car 25miles to the state patrol and then back home. Got it there hand him the paperwork, he goes back to the car opens the driver door, looks on the dash through the windshild, looks back at the door again, looks on the firewall, and then comes back up to the car to ask me where I got this vin number that I put on the paperwork. I told him pre 1968 chevy vehicls have the vin on the door hinge pillar. He goes back looks and then goes inside runs the vin and comes back to tell me the vin is clear and to bring the car back once the engine is installed. So he can sign off on the paperwork. (which I already knew)
Needless to say It was a big waste of time money and energy today. State patrolman was a total dick once I started asking him some questions about how to put it in my name. He had a bunch of smart ass comments to me after I asked him well the lady at the dmv told me to bring this paper work here and you would sign off on it and I would then be able to start the paperwork to get my title. I wanted to stomp him out so bad. I was nothing but nice and polite to him. I guess hes use to dealing with nothing but assholes.
I wanted to put it in my name b4 I even started wrencing on it so my backstabing uncle couldnt say it was his once its all finished.
CLIFFS: Im mad!, Cars not in my name until I put a motor in it. And then take it back to the State patrol.
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don't make excuses for the pig.
cops are scumbags, and scumbags are draw to "jobs" with authority
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don't make excuses for the pig.
cops are scumbags, and scumbags are draw to "jobs" with authority
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Yeah, yeah. "I never eat a pig cause a pig is a cop Or better yet a terminator Like Arnold Schwarzenegger!"
House of Pain - Jump Around (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpmX4qG1kQg#ws)
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Well, time has come for me to do some work. 1st thing was to build a car dolly. That way I could move the car around in my garage. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2FIMAG1205.jpg&hash=ac0f3443dd091cc5fccee3e7e591637bf36981a1)
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So now thats done, it's time to attack the brakes, pulled apart and inspected.
ll looks good, but I'm going to replace all 4 wheel cylinders, rubber lines, and go to a dual master cylinder instead of the single jelly jar style.
So went to work on the brakes last night. Pulled the fronts apart. Came apart real easy. But the bearings are fucked. So it's time to replace those. The grease is all dried up and turned to adhesive. Supper sticky, and hardened up.
Rock auto for the brake parts....
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Pulled the hub, but the bearing was stuck on from the old grease. So had to soak it in brake cleaner.
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The rears were cake to do. All I'm doing is inspecting, and replacing the wheel cyl., and all the rubber lines. The fluid that came out of the lines actually looked pretty good.
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And this job was brought to you by a bowl of home made spaghetti and meatballs, and a 6 pack of beer.. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2FIMAG1226.jpg&hash=69733fd1c9c29eaae8fa29bad3da30078cf919be)
So today, I need to replace the rubber line from the body, to the rear axle. And go pick up the front wheel bearings Also going to go get a running 327, that I'm trading a 3 speed that I have for, and trading another friend a backup b18 that I have for a freshly rebuilt th400 transmission.
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solid O0
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Yeah bitches..... So the casting numbers say that the motor is from a 1967 corvette. Which means its either a 300hp, or a 350hp stock motor. :)
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sounds slow. ::)
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You can barely see the corvette valve covers sitting up by the transmission. So it looks like it has hydraulic lifters. And from the information I've gathered on the internet's that means it's the 350hp version.
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quality paint job too, looks like most of it is on the tire....
you planning on having this boosted any time soon? or just running/registered?
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I fucking hate the orange paint. Most of it is flaking off. The rest of it will come off and then it will get the rhmt low gloss treatment. Tore the motor down tonight. And low and behold, it's been bored 60 over...lol cyl walls look pretty good, but it gonna need a hone and some rings for sure. Don't know about the bearings because I haven't taken the pan off. It does have hydraulic lifters, which means it should still have forged rods, and crank. At least that's what they put in it from the factory. And it was suppose to have factory forged pistons, but I don't know about that now that they are 60 over. But at any rate, it does have the bitchen heads on it. Here is a shot of some early 70's heads on the left with brand new big valves in it. And on the right it has the same large valves but from the factory. Look at the size of the intake port difference though.....lol
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While I was over at my step dads today picking up his chery picked I saw this laying on the floor....
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So I scored a holly 650 cfm carb. It will work just fine for now :)
Also finished up banging out the old wheel bearings, and put the new ones in and the front brakes are all buttoned up now. So this week's plan is to put the new master on and make the new lines for that, and pull the old gas tank, and put the new one in. And possible tear the motor down the rest of the way and see what I need to do.....
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Those intake ports gave me an instant chubby :noel:
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Those intake ports gave me an instant chubby :noel:
Pretty large compared to the stock 190/150 heads next to them.
Looks like there was some water that got in a few cyl while it was stored so I don't know with the block being 60 over is its gonna be saveable once I hone it. I just hope it's not to badly pitted from the rust. Got all 8 cyl soaked in wd40 right now. Gonna tear the gas tank off tomorrow and put the new one in. If all goes well my sending unit will still be ok.
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Pulled the gas tank today. Sending unit is fucked up. No fixing it. Pick up screen was trashed too, so I ordered a new setup on ebay for $35 shipped. Now it's just a hurry up and wait kinda thing. So I'm gonna probably run my brake line for the rears, and paint the engine bay. And try and bleed the brakes over the weekend. On a good note I found the engine chassis mounts sitting in the car.
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what about the CRX you fucking asshole
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Saved down the engine bay today and got it painted. Also painted the master cyl and got the lined for that all done and bolted in.
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I'll get a better pics soon. I also tore the 327 apart today(no pics will get soon) but it freed up and and pulled apart ok. It had a broken ring on the #8 cyl, and other than that it lookes like a stone hone, some bearings, rings and gaskets, and It will be ready to rock. I wish I knew what cam was in this thing because I can't for the life of me find any info on it.
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wow, so simple and yet looks so good. :noel:
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yeah. I found the wiring harness for the engine bay in the trunk today. Has about as many wires as the drivers side door in my integra. Now if i just knew where they all went...lol
Im totally baffled on this camshaft. I cant find any info on how to read the casting numbers on it, There is castings all over this thing.
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Can you atleast determine who made the cam?
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Pretty sure it's a gm cam.
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Just pulled a quick measurement. Looks like it has a about a .460 lift.... Meh, probably gonna buy a hot cam anyways.
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2.02/1.60s??? Nice.
AT LEAST 500 292 cam is needed. I wouldnt even fuck with that Vac 650.
Oh, and FUCK the CRX.... Nova much mo cooler...Furreals
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Well, Ive been looking up cams and all that, and to be honest, I think ill just slam this cam back in, and run it. Just had a buddy text me and say hes got a lead on a lq4 for dirty cheap! Like sub $200.... :) money for cam will be spent on a motor that I actually want to build. Needs a rebuild. But I planned on doing that anyways.
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FUCK ya
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I am so jealous.
That car in that condition around here. Fuck that engine bay looks pristine.
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It turned out pretty good. I was a little nervous about the low gloss black, I always use it on car parts, but never on an engine bay, I was afraid it was gonn look like a chalkboard. But once it dried it looked alright. Was a lot of bomb can painting....lol never bomb canned anything this big. Brother in law has been helping me on this project. Kinda kicks me in the ass when I want to call it a day and pushes me to do more....lol tracking number says that my sending unit oft the fuel gauge will be here today. So I should be able to get the tank in tomorrow. And then bleed the brakes and its ready for me to build the motor and drop it in so I can make the transmission crossmember.
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Fuck yea do work!
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Did a little checking of the main bearing clearances. Platigauges them and they were all between .0018 - .0021. Perfect except for the fact it looks like the #1 main has chewed into the bearing a touch. I know its because someone ran there belts to tight, because its in the center of the block side of the bearing. The #2 has worn through and is just starting to hit copper, but its completely smooth and so is the crank, #3 looks ok, #4 same as #2 just starting to ware into the the copper, but its smooth. #5 looks good, but I wasn't able to check the end play because I didn't have a dial indicator, but I'm gonna snag my step dads tomorrow, and check it. Overall though, the crank looks tits.
here is some pics of what Im talking about
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And here is the 327 b4 I used the wire wheel cup on my 4" angle grinder
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Tomorrow, Im gonna go grab the a ball hone and hone the shit out of this thing, and then Im gonna hit it with the paint stripper and try and get the rest of the paint off and get it cleaned up and ready for paint, and assembly.
Im kinda on the fence about running those bearings, but they are smooth and fell right into spec.
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Bearings are cheap I would just get new ones, would suck to kill the crank over it.
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Bearings are cheap I would just get new ones, would suck to kill the crank over it.
Make sure you do not get the small journal and large journal p/n mixed up. :noel:
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SBC bearings are dirt cheap.
I'd honestly have the crank double checked for straightness and have the main bores checked for straightness. Gen1 SBCs are most definitely a blunt tool.
It's a damn cool project nog.
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Just gonna order up new mains, and possibly rod bearings. Well see what happens when I check the rod bearings today. But I'm not gonna spend the money to have the crank check for straighteners. Not worth it in my book. This was a running motor, and I'm not trying to spend all my budget on it when I'm gonna just run it for the summer and sell it to fund the lq4 project.
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Fair enough.
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Finish stripping the block of the paint. Also honed the Shit ut of the cyl. The one that had the heavy rust in it cleaned up ok, but its not as smooth as I would like. Fuck it, rings will scrape it smooth.....lol
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Finish stripping the block of the paint. Also honed the Shit ut of the cyl. The one that had the heavy rust in it cleaned up ok, but its not as smooth as I would like. Fuck it, rings will scrape it smooth.....lol
Nothing like a hard (I DONT GIVE A FUCK) break in to have a smooth running motor :noel:
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Pretty much. Got frustrated last night and had to walk away for the night. Feel like I'm chasing my tail putting it together and pulling it apart about 6 times now. Gonna measure more bearings today and see what rod bearings I need to order up with the kit. It's just getting old. I'm not really making any forward progress. I think my bro in law is coming over on Friday and he will kick me in the ass to get things moving along.
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Its ok, im about to harass you into motivation with a nice early morning text :evil:
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Well had a great evening working on Shit. I cleaned up the garage and averaged everything and cleared off the work bench. Measured all my bearing thicknesses, and journals. Everything checked out perfect. So I'm back over to saying Fuck it, I'm just gonna run the bearings. So tomorrow goal is todo the final scrub down of the block and put the crank and cam it for the last time. Then start cleaning up all the pistons. And gonna order up rings tonight.
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It's your engine so do what you wish. But I would not put #1 bearing back in, it has been a few years since the last time I built a sbc, but it seems to me you can get jobber bearings for like ~$25.
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It's your engine so do what you wish. But I would not put #1 bearing back in, it has been a few years since the last time I built a sbc, but it seems to me you can get jobber bearings for like ~$25.
It really does look worse than it is. But if you saw it in person and were a broke ass like me..... You would run it...lol But then again, maybe Ill just buy 1 bearing from napa...
I have $300 left and still need to get
water pump
fuel pump
dizzy
coil
wires
plugs
fuel line
all the gaskets
get driveline shortened/balanced
build trans cross member
buy trans mount
motor mounts
all fluids
possably the engine wiring....bla bla bla the list goes on.
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There are lots of places I will make sacrifices the bottom end isn't one of them. If I can see copper color the bearing is done.
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i always put napa bearings in, never had any problems.
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Well I bought total seal mains, hasting rings, lower end gasket set, MLS head gaskets, and some other random bits and pieces. Hope to have the lower end together by next weekend.
So last night got the new fuel tank installed and started to bleed the brakes. Still got air to get out, but its now starting to build some pressure at the pedal.
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Snagged a oem hei dizzy with vacuum advance and msd wires for $32 shipped off ebay this morning. 1 less thing I have to try and buy now..
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sweet... better your budget costs ... ill take a look next time im at my dads shop for what carbs he has lying around...
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sweet... better your budget costs ... ill take a look next time im at my dads shop for what carbs he has lying around...
Sweet thanks dude.
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DO WORK!
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Once Shit shows up I will! Just got tracking numbers for bearings, gaskets, and rings. Just waiting for the guy to ship my dizzy now.
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DO WORK!!
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sounds slow. ::)
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sounds slow. ::)
Don't worry. It will be slow....
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well, today I went and ripped through my excess pile of parts I have stored in storage. Looks like I dug up a front sump oil pan that I need for the nova, about 3x as many wiring harness than I need, the hood latch, wiper motor, and a excess of other things I will need when the time comes. But for now I got the wiring, and an oil pan. The pulleys and other shit will come next week. Got a bunch or tracking numbers for shit that is suppose to show up this week. Gonna try and get the lower end together by the end of the weekend.
Today got the block done completely scrubbed down clean, along with the crank, wd40'ed up and bagged waiting for the bearings seals and rings!
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awesome.. do work.. may have a BG regulator w/gauge if you need it...
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awesome.. do work.. may have a BG regulator w/gauge if you need it...
yeah, I probably will need something.
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So my step dad dropped off a little present for me this morning......lol something he acquired for a future project. That I'll probably use for now.
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Once I remove the screw on the side, the block off plate comes off and it has a port for 2 injectors on the rear, and 2 on the front. I will still probably fire it up with the carb, seeing as how I don't have any injectors around big enough to work for this project, but I figure once I boost it it will need a different set up anyways.
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Well, gapped the rings out the other night. Top ring was between .016-.019 so after some research and a little advice I opened the top ring up to .025-.026 and the second ring from .021-.023 I plan on probably breathing on this thing with a hx52 by the end of summer. So just planning ahead. Also slapped my new main bearings in and checked tolerance. Was .0015 across the board, and end play was .005 so I slammed the rods, pistons, cam, and timing chain on tonight.
Ordered total seal bearings, federal mogul showed up and the bearings were marked clevite 77...lol can you sat 1985 stock?
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Gonna probably order up a oil pump this weekend, and paint the block. Finish bleeding the brakes, and start the tear down of the heads to freshen them up.
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Brakes are done being bleed. What fucking stubborn bitch they were. Half a gallon of fluid later. And I'm sure there is still some air trapped in there somewhere. Got the heads tore down. The valve stem seal on the #3 intake valve was fucked. So Ive ordered a full set of valve stem seals, and some spark plugs. Got a 12hr work day tomorrow, so no work will be done on it tomorrow, But I plan to have the block completely assembled, and ready to drop in next weekend and start fabbing up the transmission cross member. Going to a automotive swap meet next weekend so I dont know If Ill get it dropped in, but I sure as hell am going to try.
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Looking good, DO WORK! :noel:
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If I can figger out how to sneak this across the boarder I'm going to club you in your sleep and steal this. Fair warning.
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If I can figger out how to sneak this across the boarder I'm going to club you in your sleep and steal this. Fair warning.
Okay sounds good, but you might want to bring a body bag, and a return address so I know where to send your remains to so your family can give you a proper burial.
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I'm pretty cat like for a fat kid with a few crushed discs. O0
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If I can figger out how to sneak this across the boarder I'm going to club you in your sleep and steal this. Fair warning.
Okay sounds good, but you might want to bring a body bag, and a return address so I know where to send your remains to so your family can give you a proper burial.
If you do it right there are no remains.
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So today I .......
Installed rear main seal, cleaned the carbon off the heads, and valves, got the paint stripped off one of the heads, and also cleaned the head surface. So tomorrow, I need to pick up some more paint stripper, and strip paint and clean the surface of the other head.
Now Im just waiting for my valve stem seals. Not gonna make any more purchases of any parts until after the automotive swap meet this weekend. Just in case someone there might have what I need.
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Do work!
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Valve stem seals show that they should be here today. Also cleaned up the other head yesterday and its all ready to go. Cleaned the valve covers up, and spec my cam out. It's a pretty lame cam, so if I run accords a good one this weekend I think I'll pick it up. But here are the specs for it from what I found to be the closes one online,
204/214 in/ex @.050 110* separation .423/.446 in/ex with 1.5 rocker from what I've read its almost the same as the 80's lt1 cam. Power from 1200-4800
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yea thats a pretty stock cam.
summit racing has a good mid range cam for $99 with lifters, or maybe 119 but its around 100. i have one in my truck they are nice, much better than stock. they are still less than half an inch of lift i think
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Well I'm going to the auto swap meet at the fairgrounds tomorrow, so I hoping I can possible pick something up there. If not, I'll run this for now, and upgrade later.
So parts
Hei dizzy with coil and Msd wires $32 shipped,
also picked up new valve stem seals and some spark plugs.
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Motor all claened and ready for some heads.
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Head ready for new seals
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Got the heads on, copper sprayed the head gaskets, just for giggles, and then rtv on the head bolts and torqued everything down. Now just waiting to see if I pick up a new cam tomorrow b4 I drop lifters and pushrods in and lock Shit down. And paint.
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More tomorrow.....
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Ok, so not much happening at the swap meet, but I did pick up a junk dizzy to cannibalize to prime my motor with for $5, got a brand new craftsman dial back timing light for $10. And last but not least MY MUTHA FUCKIN Z28 WHEELS 6 wheels, 5 have tires for $100 :D!
Car is still sitting on dolly here so once I put it down it should fill the wheel well a lot better.
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So then I came back home ordered up some new lifters, dizzy hold down bracket, oil pump, and pump pickup, engine dip stick tube and dipstick, trans dipstick tube and dipstick, wheel center caps, and a whole bunch of other Shit. So parts should be rolling in pretty hard here next week.
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you're degreeingb your cam, hardcore
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you're degreeingb your cam, hardcore
What? I degred the cam to try and figure out what I have. I had no idea what it was so I degreed it to see what was happining. It will work for now. I'll upgrade later.
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oh i see.
i thought you were being hardcore and setting some advance at the cam, or making sure its exact like hardcore racers do
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Lol, no. If I were doing that I wouldn't just be using stamped rockers. I just didn't know what cam I had, and I would like to have found out b4 I fired it up to find out that it's a dog. Now I know it will be a dog...lol
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100 dollar summit cam can't go wrong
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Only problem with that is I still have the press in head studs, and I don't know what the stall on my converter is o I'm kinda limited for now.
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It'll be fine
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Well, sticking with the cam I have for now. :'( but it will work. Got the whole top end assmbled yesterday, now I just need to install my oil pump and pickup tube once it shows up. So it will probably be next weekend b4 I get the motor in.
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Well its been slow going on the build. Been real busy, but have accomplished a few small things.
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Got some parts in. Also Painted the aluminum intake because I hate the way they look once the get dirty.
Also ordered some centercaps, and the special Dorman lug nuts to fit my wheels, and my thread pitch
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Motor all together, just needed the mid shaft for the oil pump, and had to drill and tap the block for the support for the oil pickup tube.
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Got the motor mounts bolted in
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So now I'm at the point where I'm ready to try and drop the motor and trans in. But if corse I'm about out of money and I found out that the rebuilt th400 that I picked up is a truck trans and I will have to pick up a special yoke, and Dennys driveshafts are currently out of stok on them. So I'm thinking I might just try and pick up a powerglide locally off of craigslist for cheap and I won't have to have the driveline shortened or make a new crossmember either. But on the otherhand I'm stuck with a 2 speed transmission. :-/
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What manifold is that?
I have one that looks just like that its a Holley street dominator
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Eldedbrocker...lol old school Single plain torker. It was stamped on the botom 1976.
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Engine looks good. Im diggin the satin black.
I wouldnt bother even looking for a powerglide.
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The thing about the powerglide is it bolts right in, and I'm done for now if I go with the th400 I have to
Make linkage
Make crossmember
Buy detent for steering column
Get special yoke
Shorten driveshaft
Beat in the tunnel to make room for th400
The main thing is the cost of all the parts right now.... :(
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Sounds like 50 bux and some work.......lol. You'd pay more for a powerglide wouldn't ya?
True though, why put a bunch of time and effort into it really......you'll just sell it :-*
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Cheapest I found the special driveshaft yoke thatI need is 109 + shipping, and they are out of stock. So yeah, $50 and some work so I can sell it....lol
Probably gonna pick the trans up if dude emails me his number so I can pick it up. Its only $100 and then I can sell it when I'm done using it. Just like a crx. :P
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sell/trade the 400 for a car one?!?
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show me the yoke you need, i might have one.
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http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p69_t_400__4l80_transmission_slip_yoke_1310_series_32_spline_wth.html (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p69_t_400__4l80_transmission_slip_yoke_1310_series_32_spline_wth.html)
That's the one I need to run the th400 truck trans in the car with a fixed driveshaft rather than a truck driveshaft.
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Ok, I'll check. I know we had one at the shop. When my dad bought his Nova, there was a turbo 400 out of a truck in it but he swapped it to a M22 4 speed.
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That would be bad ass if you got one.
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Well, I went and picked up a pg for $100 with torque converter. Gonna try and slap the motor and trans in tomorrow if all goes right.
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Asked my dad about that yoke. Turns out, there was never a driveshaft hooked up so it appears someone was in the same predicament.
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Motor and powerglide is in! Oil is in, and engine is primed. Trans and torque converter all bolted up, but for the life of me I couldn't find the plate that bolts between the engine and trans. So I read a couple of places online that some people run without them. So everything lined up great so fuck it. Got the hood bolted on and and to weld the trans crossmember because the weld was cracked. Anyways, onto the pics....
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sexy
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^^^^ very
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Are you sure you can handle the wiring?
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Plate between engine and tranny? It's not a ford. I have never seen a Chevy with anything between them.
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Are you sure you can handle the wiring?
Idk, its pretty hard. We will see...
Plate between engine and tranny? It's not a ford. I have never seen a Chevy with anything between them.
Maybe I'm thinking ford. Its the only other v8 I've done major stuff to. This is the first sbc I've ever really fucked with.
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Not a "plate" but there is a cover that goes around the converter between the engine and trans.
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I have like 6 tq converter covers in the parts pile. Im sure at least 1 of them has to work.
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Yea, there is like a dust shield, but I have never seen a gm with a plate
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Well got a bunch of little shit done in the last couple of days....
Drivers side suspension is all checked and tight.
Shock cover/bump stop is bolted on drivers side.
Ps bracket is painted and mounted
batt tray is painted and mounted
bumper and grill is all mounted and turn signals wired
hood latch painted and bolted in
headlight trim bezel is on
some wiring ran
wiper motor is painted and bolted in
Horns bolted on..
Not much but its all the little shit that takes time
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wow, really is looking good. very simple. love it.
still does need a turbo tho.
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Fuck I'm jelly.
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Looks sweet...............I'm definitely a fan of simplicity. Almost as much as Russ is.
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Fuck I'm jelly.
+10
Makes me so mad I let my 63 Buick go
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Looks sweet...............I'm definitely a fan of simplicity. Almost as much as Russ is.
There will be no Russ style simple in this build. End of story! Once its running, Ill come back and clean up all the wiring with some loom and all that good stuff.
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Kinda ran into a wall. Lots of of little fab shit I have to do and not enugh time this last weekend, but I got a few more little things done
PS pump and belt in
Alt test fitted and belt length is good on it
Main relay cleaned up, wired up and bolted in
Voltage regulator cleaned up, wired up and bolted in
Wiper motor wiring hooked up and linkage bolted to it
throttle linkage bolted in the car now
horn wires hooked up
Drivers side suspension is all done and tq down.
Front wheels TQ'ed down
Started to fuck with shifter linkage bracket that mounts to the transmission so I can shift it through gears, but it looks like im gonna have to do some fab work on it because it doesn't just hook up. Its the wrong bracket. Think its for a floor shifter or cable and my linkage is just that , LINKAGE.
And the dipstick tube that I though was for the Powerglide Is defiantly for something else. Once the tube is in, the bracket for it to bolt to the transmission sits about 3/4" higher that the bolt hole. So I think Im gonna weld a washer to the tube or something.
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and last but not least, I pulled the batt out of my integra to just test the wiring, and low and behold, All my wring on the car works. Horns, turn signals, brake lights and everything else except the radio because the fuse for it is missing.
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Damn you have plenty of space for a hx-52!
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Damn you have plenty of space for a hx-52!
This!!!
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Or a $650 S475...
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thinking more along the lines of some rhmt kkk turboS. Or a gtp38 or gt40 All of which I have access to.
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... Or a pair of gtp38's or gt40's All of which I have access to.
Fixed.
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Not going for a monster...........yet Just want lightning fast spool. Like a rhb5 on a d16
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You will likely end up with monster back pressure, and no workable rpm range if you go to small.
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You will likely end up with monster back pressure, and no workable rpm range if you go to small.
Not going for a track car at all. Litterly I want to stand on the go pedal and have boost there at any range in the rpms. Even if it means giving up peak horsepower for the last 1k. I Mean if and when I boost it, if it make 450whp @ 3k, you can't tell me that it wouldn't be a fun ride to cruise around town in.
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Size your converter properly and that's a non issue. Listen to dvst8r, he knows his V8 stuff.
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I understand he knows what's up. I just don't want a lag monster.
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Just keep in mind each of the 4 cylinders in that V8 have more displacement then a Honda H motor.
Also keep in mind that 450hp@3000rpm is almost 800ft lbs of torque, that is going to take a decent built transmission, and will burn the tires off at will. Sounds like you are trying to build a diesel.
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Lol, ok. Let me rephrase that. I want 450tq @ 3k.....lol But to be 100% honest, I just want the car to move under its own power right now. I'll worry about boosting it later on.
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You don't even need a turbo then. Lol.
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You don't even need a turbo then. Lol.
You always need a turbo.....
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Lol, ok. Let me rephrase that. I want 450tq @ 3k.....lol But to be 100% honest, I just want the car to move under its own power right now. I'll worry about boosting it later on.
So now you are talking like 250hp, depending on your current compression ratio, a cam swap will net you that and more...
As you may be realizing about now, making power at 3000rpm really isn't good for anything but pulling trailers.
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Well it does have to tote my fat ass around....lol
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I was kidding about no turbo. That's asinine. Lol. V8's are a whole different deal than 4 cylinders. I remember tuning a v8 for the first time. Maxed out the injectors at 2500-3k rpm then had to back tons of fuel out above that. It went against everything I was used to. Lol
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And that's where I'm gonna be at too I belive. Whole new game for me. I mean who makes more tq than Hp anyways........lol
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And that's where I'm gonna be at too I belive. Whole new game for me. I mean who makes more tq than Hp anyways........lol
A diesel, certainly not a v8 gas with a proper cam and turbo... :P
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Ill be lucky if this motor makes 250whp na.
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Not with the stock cam, but depending on compression ratio, with a different cam it should be able to pull that.
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Well, from what I have gathered. My comp is about 9.5:1 and the cam that is in there is its a little hotter than a lt1 cam. Find out soon. They dyno day is less than 2 months away.
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My guess is about 270hp.
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Yeah, Idk about that. Stock ram horn style exhaust maniflods with 2" exhaust pipes. Got a real tight fit with the shock towers and the colum style shift linkage. Gonna try like Hell to get these headers that are under my bench to work. But I'm pretty sure they will hit everything.
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it looks good
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Thanks Johnny,
So exhaust is bolted on, throttle linkage hooked up...nog style with a welder and a screw and some Honda vlave cover grommets. Tore the alternator apart to fi d out its totally shot, so ill be getting a new one tomorrow. Hei dizzy in and coil power wire re done, new vacuum can on the dizzy too, Tires aired up, seat bolted in, interior all vacuumed out. A few other small things but they aren't on the list anymore.
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The interior is pretty damn nice
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Yeah, my uncle had the seats recovered like 2 weeks b4 he passed away in 1986. Shit, the front seat wasn't even bolted in until last night. Needs door panels, and the rear seat shelf cover, sail panels, and a factory dash pad. But other than that its pretty much all there.
Picked up some parts today. Got a new alt, and some starter bolts. Exhaust manifold bolts, tested the starter. Worked on the bench, but who knows once its under load. Need to get a bushing for it. It pretty much sounds like shit when its powered up. Also got a bunch of other small stuff.
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Couple of hiccups..... So Went to fit the exhaust manifolds on, and no matter how I set up the alternator bracket i Couldn't get my alternator to fit between the shock tower and the valve cover. Got tired of that shit so I Just ordered a set of corvette style ram horn cast exhaust manifolds. They have the alternator bracket holes cast into them. Down side is that I have to redo my exhaust.
Next problem, went to bolt my new starter in tonight, It looks like I have a 168 tooth 14" flex plate. My new starter is for the 153 tooth 12.75" flex plate. Not a big deal, just swap starters right? But for the fact that I don't have a torque convertor cover that fits over the 14" flex plate. So good luck trying to find one of those covers...... So now I'm stuck with looking through all my parts to see if I have a 153 tooth flex plate, and pulling the transmission and swapping flex plates.
On the up side, I got my water temp gauge, boost/vac gauge and my air cleaner installed. Put my new fuel pump in too.
My tach showed up today, So I'm going to try and install that this weekend. Lots of shit to do, not a whole lot of time.
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You can run it without the inspection cover if you want
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I know I can run without it, but I would much rather run with one. Well, I think since I have 2 covers I'm gonna make 1 from the 2. Was late last night and I was over complicating things.
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Got this shit locked down! Should have it running within the next few days. Ill post pics up later tonight!
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So I received my corvette style ram horn manifolds yesterday. Bolted them up and the fucking alt bracked doesn't fit it. So Im fucking fed up with it, and decided to go to the wrecking yard today to see how all the old chevs had there's mounted. Since all my parts are left overs that I didnt tear apart. All of the chevys had there alt mounted on the pass side. Opposite of what the nova has. So I went home and dug through my parts bin. Seems I had the parts all along to mount it on the pass side. Had to go to the long style water pump instead of the short style. (short style doesnt have any mounting holes for alt brackets) I also had to buy a different harmonic balancer to bolt the other larger pullys on. I had a long water pump in the trunk of the car. So after all this fighting with it. I have the shit mounted up.
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here it is all mocked up to see if it would even fit. Its just mocked up on the old harmonic balancer.
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new one on left, had to get a new one because the one on the right has rivets that go through it and the pulleys for the long water pump were different and wouldn't bolt up to it.
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So I bolted it all up, and figured before I clean and paint it, I better test fit it all.
looks like its gonna work. So Im gonna pull the radiator and fan out tomorrow and paint and clean them up and put it back in for final mounting.
Not much left to do. If all goes well Im gonna try and fire it up this weekend.
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sweeet. glad you got that all figured. :)
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Nigga doin werk
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So close!
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So the only thing I'm still kinda baffled on is setting up my vaccum advance on my dizzy. I belive I want to set the vaccum to be post throttle blade but I don't have a vac port on this carb post throttle plate. Only after...
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Yes, must be after the throttle plates. How is there no port on the carb?
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After? So I want it to be advanced a bunch when idling? so say I set my base timing at 12* and my vac can pulls another 16* that would be a total of 28* while idleing. Is this right?
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It is meant to add in a bunch of advance under part throttle cruising which is high vac. To set the timing the best method is with a retarding timing light. Set the dial to your desired full advance, in your case around 32°, pull the vac line and get it around 3k rpm to get full mechanical advance in, then adjust the distributor till the TDC mark lines up. You won't have a shit load of advance during cranking cause the engine isn't running, you can have insane amounts of advance part throttle with no issues.
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Ok, sweet. Not like the put a jumper in and set it @ 16* at idle like im use to.
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There is an idle setting, but nobody does it that way. Lol. To set it at idle, you pull the vac advance line and plug it, bring the idle down to like 300-400 so there is no mechanical advance and set it. That shit really doesn't matter though since you want your wide open advance to be solid. Everything else can fluctuate.
I'm sure the purpose of this car is to drag some, so you can fully set your timing there. Advance timing every run till mph plateaus or falls off, then back off.
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I'm sure the purpose of this car is to drag some, so you can fully set your timing there. Advance timing every run till mph plateaus or falls off, then back off.
If this car ever makes it to the drag strip ill be surprised. Its gonna be a cruiser. That might see a little stoplight to stoplight action. Ill set my final timing on the dyno next month.
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So I got the radiator and pulley painted up, alternator mounted up in final spot. Heater hoses done up, radiator filled up, starter mounted, torque converter cover bolted up, pass side exhaust all bolted up. Valve cover breather concted to air cleaner, and a few other little things. Not a whole lot left to do. Gonna try and fire it up Friday.
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And the tq cover.....lol well what do u do when your cover don't fit over the large style flex plate? You cut a fucking slot.....
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I always assumed this was going to see the strip. Well, go for 32° for now, then I'm sure you know the rest when you get to the Dyno. Lol
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I'm going to sell this to highroller, I really want to see a twin turbo ls 5 speed swaped in. Might take his blue eg on trade!
Sounds good!
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You sir, are smoking crack cocaine!
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So I went to tighten the starter cable down to my new starter solenoid and the fucker broke in half..... Gay! Already went to the parts store and got a whole new starter. And then I'm just gonna swap the solenoid and take the starter back...lol
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I have broke those before lol.
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Shit made me mad was about to throw it across the garage but that would have accomplished about nothing. I wanted to turn the motor over last night to make sure it worked. Called it a night at that point. Was already 845 by then.
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Called it a night at that point. Was already 845 by then.
...old people... ::)
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Well, she runs. But don't move. Pretty sure I got fucked on a transmission from some faggot. Needless to say, it might just end up in his livingroom or his backseat. Drive by tossing will happen if he doesn't man up.
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Is there fluid in it?
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Is there fluid in it?
Oh shit........... That's what I forgot.......
Fuck yeah, are you kidding me? Of corse there's fluid in it....lol
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Linkage and shit adjusted right?
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Detent cable adjusted right? :noel:
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Linkage is adjusted perfect. I ran it slowly through the whole range and nothing nowhere through it. So tomorrow I'm gonna pull the pan and have a little look. The great thing about powerglides it a full rebuild kit is about $65. The good thing is the motor runs fucking great, and the car sounds fucking amazing. Still needs a bunch of tweaking on the carb, and I need to replace the springs to recurve my timing but I don't want to do anything else untill it will move, I need to go out and drive it to seat my rings and the motor has about 10min worth or run time on it normally I idle a fresh build for about 5 min and then go out and start driving right away to do some hi vac pulls to get them seated real good. Has always worked real well for me doing it that way.
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Pull a cooler line and see if its pumping
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Trans is fucked, cars cursed ill give you 5,000.
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Trans is fucked, cars cursed ill give you 5,000.
I see novas for sale all the time. Are you lookin for a post or no post? And what years. Ill find u you a nova if you want one. How much u want to spend?
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I'm not 100% ready yet, I'm clearing house of honda shit right now in prep for nova time!
I like the 62-64 but the 66 and 67 is hot to!
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I'm not 100% ready yet, I'm clearing house of honda shit right now in prep for nova time!
I like the 62-64 but the 66 and 67 is hot to!
No love for 1965? Let me know when your ready. There is a bunch of rust free shit around here.
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The 65 is my favorite but hard to get certain parts for. My dad has a 65 4 door he is trying to sell right now.
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No not really loving the 65, the front fender/headlight area really wrecks it for me. Rust free is what I am after. I would rather spend a few days traveling then six months welding panels in lol. I would like to start with a nice car already black, don't care about engine and trans. Nice black interior would be sweet to, bucket seats and a standard if we are getting really picky lol. I'm hoping to have everything ready on my end so I can get one home and build it this winter. I am a little shocked at the prices of some of them though, been a while since I looked them up, they have really come up in price.
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Well, trans is fucked! Put a gauge on the test port and put it in drive and it hit 115-130psi depending on gear so the pump was good, but the fluid looked like shit even though its all fresh. Guy I bought it from had it stored on the side of his house and he said it worked fine when he pulled it. And it probably did. But it must have got water in it at some point when he had it outside. I took a peak inside it b4 I put it on and it looked nice and clean in the pan. Well I pulled the trans and then the pan..... :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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I pulled the whole thing down apart figuring the clutches were hammers, and nope nothing, no stuck valves, no worn band nothing. Just water in the fluid. So rather than do a full rebuild on it, and get a new tq converter, Im just gonna try and slam my th400 in and go from there. So until then its sitting on jack stands while I order up parts and get the driveline shortened.
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shitty :'(
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So this morning I pulled the trigger and ordered up this
Column linkage to attach the th400
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Crossmember to attache the th400 into the car only problem is they are out of stock and wont have it back in stock until latter this week which means it wont ship out until friday..... I hope (fingers crossed)
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and a th400 yoke that accepts the 1310 u joint, which is the stock style for my driveshaft. And from the looks of the pictures they have I believe It will also fit on the truck style output shaft because it is machined to have a few inches of splines out to fit over the truck style o-ring.
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Also changed the weights and springs out in my distributor today, and picked up output, input seals, and a transmission pan gasket and filter.
Father-in-law has a th400 transmission case that's in his barn that was left there when he bought his place. Gonna snag that from him tomorrow and that way I can mock up the transmission into the tunnel and see where I need to massage it for clearance. Once that's done Im going to install my transmission and pull my measurement for my driveshaft and drop it off on Tuesday to have it shortened and then install that.
Hope they ship this shit out like asap. I really like the people @ chevy2only.com, but they are in Kentucky and I dont know if life moves at a slower pace there but it seems like everything I order from them takes 2 weeks to get here.
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Shitty luck on the trans but looks like its coming along! Keep it up :noel:
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Just called them up to check the status of my order because I got a email with a tracking number saying my order had shipped out yesterday but it only weighed 12lbs, So I figured it was just my yoke and linkage. Turns out they did have a crossmember in stock and he said they put the yoke, and the linkage in a box inside the crossmember box. So tracking says it will be here Tuesday. :) Going to call the driveline guy up and see if I drop it off in the morning if I can pick it up in the afternoon. And hopefully drive it next week!
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Trannys all ready for a good cleaning!
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Nice trick photography :noel:
The transmission look to be on the engine stand but yet looks like it is sitting on the tire on the floor. ;DDD
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Wish i knew stuff about what's going on in here. I came in for rippers. :noel:
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Trans I got from cragulsit was garbage, putting bigger badder transmission in. Hoping for rippers next week!
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Trans all cleaned up. New tq converter seal, new output shaft seal, new trans filter and gasket.
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nice work aj!.. did you try a flush on the glide? or is beyond that..anyway awesome work son..
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I pulled it for inspection. Pulled that bitch down to a bare case, and re assmbled it. I'm sure a flush would have done the trick, but by that point it was already out and I ordered up all the parts for the th400. Which is what I should have just done in the first place, but I wanted to take the easy route and it wasn't so easy.
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Small update:
Put the transmission in yesterday for a quick test fit. Pulled it down and clearanced (beat the hell out of it) the tunnel at the tailshaft where it would make contact. put it back up and pulled it back down a couple of times to make sure I got enough room for it. So tomorrow, Ill pull the trans back out, put the tq convertor in the trans and hopefully bolt it back in for the last time.
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Do weRk!!!
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Well, pulled the trans put the tq converter in and reinstalled the trans. Hopefully when my crossmember shows up Tuesday I won't have to pull it back out to clearance more for the trans.
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Parts! Taking the driveline to the driveline guy right now to have it shortened(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2FIMAG1538_zps5e440137.jpg&hash=c692d6f0a6469454740700971f6ef9c751da8ffc)
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Well, FUCK!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Crossmember fits great. Transmission has about 1 1/2 fingers clearance to the tunnel. So thats good. The fact that the crossmember runs right trough the middle of where my exhaust is/ needs to be fucking blowes! So it looks like I will be filling my tank up to do some exhaust work after all.
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Fuck just run open header for now :evil:
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Fuck just run open header for now :evil:
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Where is the turbo?
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Ill probably just cut the exhaust of in front of the cross member for now, and take it on its maiden run open header. And then put a little \_/ in the exhaust to go around the crossmember. Will look at it more today.
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Just got a call from Jerry @ Kitsap Drivelines. My shaft is now shorter..... ;) Have to go pick it up this afternoon. Hes leaving @ 4 to go on vacation for a week. Glad I got it to him when I did. Not to bad of a price for a shorten and balance. $85
Where is the turbo?
One thing at a time......... Wanted to make sure that this fucker would actually run before I slam some boost into it, But it will happen. Just don't know when.
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Damn, $85 to shorten and balance sounds like a deal to me
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Turbo with dump behind front wheel solves exhaust issue. :P
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The suspense is killing me
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Fuck, I havent touched it in a week. Been crazy busy. Getting ready to head into the garage in a few min.
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Did you do work?
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Yes sir..... Exhaust cut, driveline in, trans all bolted up, dizzy stabbed back in, trans lines cleared out and hooked back up, vacuum line for trans ran, new linkage all hooked up, vacuum secondary diaphragm replaced, tq convertor bolted to flexplate, starter hooked back up and bolted in,
Had to order up a th400 dipstick tube, the one I ordered from summit didn't work and broke off when I was trying to test fit it in my spare th400 trans. So once that shows up ill put it in and fill the trans. Also need to bolt the tq convertor cover on and swap out water pump because this one leaks like a mofo!
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Fuck yea!
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So the dipstick and tube showed up today. After fucking with it for about an hour, and it still didn't fucking fit, I said Fuck it. And grabbed a th350 tube I had and figured I would give it a try. Fits ok, but need a little tweaking. Got it in but to start the fucking bolt I had to pull the dizzy, to pull the dizzy I had to undo the transmission mount and jack the back of the transmission up. Turns out that the crossmember hangs the trans lower so now that its all back together my hei dizzy don't fit. Its jammed so hard againts the firewall I cant advance or retard the dizzy at all. Pretty sure it will eventually crack the cap. So option 1. "clearance" the firewall with a body dolly and hammer. Option 2. Swap out the dizzy for a oem style dizzy and coil which I will have to buy both. Fuck, I just want to fucking drive this car already!
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Hit the firewall and I will kick you in the nuts
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Hit the firewall and I will kick you in the nuts
Yeah, thats not the plan. Just got off the phone with napa, parts will be there this afternoon. Probably put it all in and fire it up tomorrow after I get off work.
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Probably should go ahead and order one of those cdm 80mm units, same as Denmah is using on his truck project. Looks like it has about the right powerband for what you wanted.
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Probably do it this winter. Not in the budget for this project yet. Just want it to run right now.
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Well, It finally fucking moved under its own power. Overall, it goes ok. Needs LOTS of tuning. Had to swap to the points style dizzy, external coil and some new plug wires. Overall, went well. Trans pan leaked a little until I tightened up the bolts a little. And cant get the fucker to idle at all. Probably because I removed the idle stop screw. Probably need to put that back. But it drives. Im pretty pumped.
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Where are the vids you nigger?
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Idle screws do play a part in getting it to idle. Contrary to the name of the part. Lol
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I did not get vids..... Bro in laws wife did. Ill upload next time she comes over. They are on her phone. I was not purposely trying to lite the tires up. I was left foot braking trying to keep it from dieying and it just hapen to power brake a little. Like 3'......lol and yes, the idle stop screw is kinda important for idle...lol it was a real funky braket that had sine fast idle emissions shit attached to it so I took it off. Not thinking that I need a screw to crack the blades open a touch....lol oh well. Ill get it figured out next week sometime.
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Where are the vids you nigger?
+1
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Next week foos. Cleaned the garage up today. Found the bracket to set the idle. Didn't get a chance to bolt it on. Have lots of shit going on this week. Ill have some videos up next week of it running like shit.
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Sounds gay, get vids.
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Well this is the only vid I have so far. I got it to idle. Now I need to get it out on the road and do some tuning......lol This vid was taken b4 I adjusted everything today. So its running a little rough. But now I need to fuck around with some linkage, and whatnot, and weld up some exhaust and then some ripper videos.
http://youtu.be/vCsRoX6G00w (http://youtu.be/vCsRoX6G00w)
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Sounds good :noel:
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Thanks. This carb is a total piece of shit, but it will make it run enough to drive but sometime it idles hi, sometimes to low, and the afrs are all over the place.....lol
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Thanks. This carb is a total piece of shit, but it will make it run enough to drive but sometime it idles hi, sometimes to low, and the afrs are all over the place.....lol
Its a carburetor............thats what they do, lol
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Your speaking the truth there......lol
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Well, talke
the local exhaust shop about having them welding up the exhaust. They quoted me $150, told them ill have hot pieces of slag roll down my sleeve and burn the shit out of myself at that price. So tonight I used what little gas I had left in the welder to tack shit together.
Drivers side
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So tomorrow I'm gonna pull the exhaust off and flux core that shit up. Will be nice and ugly. But at least the exhaust is right under the car.
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So the exhaust is all welded up and back on. Gonna put some fuel in it tomorrow and take it for a little back woods street tuning. Found out that the carb I have isn't that big of a piece if shit........ Well in theorie....
http://ddilts.net/mustangs/holley_4180/index.html (http://ddilts.net/mustangs/holley_4180/index.html)
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I rebuilt one of those not too long ago for an old ford truck with a big block. Seemed like an ok carb as far as stock carbs go.
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Fucking rebuild kit for these is out of hand. They want $90 for one. That's half way to a set if hiprofile injectors.
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The one I got was $40
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and where might you have got that from?
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I don't remember, but if I find any paperwork I'll let you know
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Thanks phil, probably throw my stepdads 750 he has off his 428 on this while I try and wrestle up a rebuild fir this.
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So on Sunday I went over to my folks house and pulled the Holley 750 off the 428 and slapped it on. Car fired right up and idled perfect. Was pulling 20" of vac @ 800 rpms. Was only able to pull 12" with the other carb. This carb runs rich as shit when im driving so if i was to keep this carb I would need to swap out jets and then see how it goes from there. So I pulled it out if the garage and washed it up and drove it to work the next day with a trip permit. I got to talking with a friend at work and he said he has a Holley 600 that has a blown power valve that I could have. Turns out its a 80457. And I got it for free :) So it takes your basic Holley rebuild that only cost $30 from the local autoparts store. So im going to pick that up today.
On the way home from work it sounded like I had a rear brake shoe dragging. About 2 blocks from my house I hit a bump and it sounded like the rear exploded and then a metal lath. So since I was only 2 blocks from my house I limped it home and jacked it up pulled the wheel and drum and one of the brake shoe hold down pins had broke and all springs came loose and was sitting in the bottom of the drum. Along with a bunch of chewed up pieces. The drum face was fine along with the shoes, but I need new hardware. So it now has all new hardware and no more noise.
So the next thing to do is replace the rear shock bushings because when I hit the slightest bump it sounds like someone hits the underside with a hammer. Pretty sure its the shock bushings or leaf spring bushings.
But other than that the car drives great and is real quiet. I also have an appointment with the state patrol on the 10th for them to hopefully sign off on it and I can register it with the department of licensing.
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You are better off with a 600cfm carb for that engine any ways.
There is a such thing as too big of a carb for an engine.
Unless you you are getting 100% V.E. + and reving to 8k that 750cfm would not be a good daily driving carb for ya. :noel:
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Yeah I know. even with the old shitty 600 I had on there the throttle response was way better. But then again I'm sure the squirters on this are way to big. Along with everything else. I men it did come off and engine that's almost 100ci bigger, and this carb has been tuned for that engine. I just more or less wanted to see if my carb was the problem..... and it was.
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you bringing this to the meet?
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you bringing this to the meet?
thats the plan....... As long as it dont break down along the way.
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So.......... pulled the free carb apart and regasketed the whole thing along with cleaning everything out. Put it on and the rear plug on the side of the bowl thats pressed in from holley is pissing fuel out of it. I mean like across the driveway....lol So I ended up pulling the rear bowl from the old shitty carb I had laying around. Slammed it on the rebuilt carb and put it on the car and it is leak free for now.
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I'm too lazy to re-read, isn't the free carb a 750? You really need a 600 on there.
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1 carb = free 600 holley parts carb Didnt run worth a shit needed rebuild and rebuild for it was $90
2 carb = Stepdads 750 to use for temporary use runs way to rich
3 carb = Free Holley 600 with a blown power valve, did a full rebuild on it it leaked from the rear bowl freeze plug looking thing,threw the rear bowl from the first carb on it and no more leak.
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I have an edelbrock 600 on my 270hp/350tq crate motor in my truck. It's perfect. I paid $250 at auto zone for it brand new. Bolted it on, set the idle and its perfect. Haven't touched it otherwise
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I have an edelbrock 600 on my 270hp/350tq crate motor in my truck. It's perfect. I paid $250 at auto zone for it brand new. Bolted it on, set the idle and its perfect. Haven't touched it otherwise
Yeah I have ED 1406 on my Mustang, love it easy to tune, and later easy to use for a possible turbo 302 build. :noel:
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Well I have a whopping $30 into this carb. And that was just for the rebuild. If I had an extra $300 kicking around I would just go pick up a new Holley and be done with it. But I'm broke as fuck right now, and this project is about done for the year. Ive put as much into it as I can and then some for this year. Only other bit of money Im allowing is to register/tab it.
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So no matter what I do I can't get this carb to come off the high idle cam. I can push it down and it idles perfect. But as soon as I blip the throttle it snaps itself right back onto high idle again. So I think I'm gonna loosen it up and spin it back to where its all the way open so I can get this fucker to the dyno day.
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So no matter what I do I can't get this carb to come off the high idle cam. I can push it down and it idles perfect. But as soon as I blip the throttle it snaps itself right back onto high idle again. So I think I'm gonna loosen it up and spin it back to where its all the way open so I can get this fucker to the dyno day.
All the old holleys will shit powervalves out of themonbad backfires..... The famous stumble bumble off idle on hard press
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Power valve saver from Summit: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-1511g?seid=srese1&gclid=CLv0iL7ivbcCFbE-MgodzWoATg (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-1511g?seid=srese1&gclid=CLv0iL7ivbcCFbE-MgodzWoATg)
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Should help in the future rebuild, or if you get a new Holley Avenger series carb they already have a saver in them. :noel:
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Well I think I got the choke figured out. Overall I put about 8 miles on it today. Gonna drive it to work tomorrow and do a rhmt garage alignment once I get home. And then maybe do a little a little tuning. Overall besides wanting to suck me into the ditch on the right(if I let go of the steering wheel) It drives pretty good.
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Fuck yeah, this thing runs pretty good now.(knocks on wood)
First thing I needed to do was a front end alignment. So 2 bricks, a string line and a tape measure and its dialed in pretty good.
Reshimed the starter because it was grinding and sounded like total shit.
Pulled the carb and replaced the rear plate with metering block. Started with 74 jets and it was still only droping into the 14s for afrs and by 5k it was dropping to 13.5ish. I slamed in 76s instead and now it pulls mid 13 and by 5k afrs are a solid 13ish.
Next I had to pull my dizzy and tap my manifold because my dizzy hold down bolt was stripped out and the dizzy was walking timing on its own. So I tapped it for the 3/8" bolt instead of a 5/16" bolt. So now the dizzy locked down for a base of 16° it is all in by 2500 and it advances to 36° it barks 2nd and 3rd when it shifts. Pulls nice and smooth.
So now its all loaded up and ready for the dyno day.
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:noel:
complete guess as i dont know what a 327 makes: 201whp 240ft :-*
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So It made about as much as I thought it would through the tiny exhaust manifolds.
RHMT RatCityRex 1966 Chevy Nova II on the dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JP9fxdn-mk#ws)
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Well boys, Taking it to the state patrol tomorrow. Hopefully the car makes it there, and then I hope they sign off on it. Said they need to check the vins? Really? Good luck on that. Because I'm sure gm put vins on every part back in 1966 ::) ::) ::)
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so the wsp boys passed it no problem. But now that I cant prove that I own it the dol wants me to pay taxed on something I already own....lol So Im gonna backdoor these mother fuckers so hard. They dont even show that car on record.
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And it got 19mpg on the hwy. A lot better than I expected. Was thinking I would be lucky if I would be able to get 15 or 16.
The only funky thing is that under real light throttle (like 15% and 16-20" vac) during cruise the afr's are in the mid 13's. But under light load (going up a slight incline 25-35% ish 10-16" vac) it pulls my afrs back up to around the 14.8-15.3 range. But then when I lean on it a little more the power valve kicks in and pulls it down to 13.5ish and when the secondary's kick in its down around the low 13.1-12.7 ish. Just don't know how to lean it out during real light load without fucking up the rest of the part throttle tune. Other than that, this thing cruises down the hwy great. my timing is all in by 2500, and my vac advance cranks another 20* in so with my base set at 16* I'm running a total of 56* ish and my motor seems to love every minute of it during cruise. My rpms seem to be around 2600-2800 between 60-70 mph.
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It's a carb. They are only good at atomizing fuel better than most traditional injectors, and repeatable WOT AFRs... as long as weather/altitude stays the same. Now you know why folks convert to fuel injection. You could probably score a TPI intake, dist, harness and have a good experience for cheap.
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Oh, yeah. There's a lot of quirks with even cyl distribution on V8s. Tune the NA ones to 12.8:1 , not critical on your current stocker but anything hot will last a lot longer, and might lose 1% of peak power.
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Thanks jd. I'm thinking I'm gonna just rock it this way through the summer and when I park it for the winter pick up a Tpi setup and do a little triming in the engine bay to make a set of headers fit. And if all goes well with that then probobaly slap a turbo setup on it and go from there
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Thanks jd. I'm just going to give it to Chad, he is a awesome sexy beast of a man.
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Yeah, there's a lot to be said for enjoying the car now. Converting to EFI isn't that big of a deal with a lot of affordable used parts being more or less bolt-on, but the down time during prime cruising weather is dumb.
I'd keep my ear to the ground for a cheap TPI setup now, in fact go ahead and make some noise about it. You'd be surprised who has old 3G F-body junk laying around, who'd like to see you do something cool with some old iron and kick it to you.
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Well alright then...... I'll make a wanted post for one then. I've found theml at swap meets and craigslist for complete intakes minus the wiring for under a bill localy.
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Make sure the TB shaft isn't slopped completely out, seems to be a problem with the high mileage units. You can probably grade entirely on the cleanliness of the IM, though.
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Thanks. That's something that could be easily overlooked when buying.
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Well, got the tabs/plates/registration today. So now I'm ready to roll!
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Well, got the tabs/plates/registration today. So now I'm ready to roll!
Nice man!
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Well I've been driving the car for 3 weeks now. Burned through my first tank of gas. It was all in town driving. Got a whopping 8mpg. But I don't really care. Just fun to drive. Not the 19mpg I get on the hwy.
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Nova nova nova nova
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Bump for boosted pics
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Only thing that's boosted since the last time I posted in this thread is the miles on the odomiter. Just been driving it and cruising around. Gonna take it for a spin in the morning. The plan for this winter is to get a Tpi fuel injection setup bolted on and a cam and some valve train and then possably boost it come next summer.
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Only thing that's boosted since the last time I posted in this thread is the miles on the odomiter. Just been driving it and cruising around. Gonna take it for a spin in the morning. The plan for this winter is to get a Tpi fuel injection setup bolted on and a cam and some valve train and then possably boost it come next summer.
have solid parts to make most of this happen.. lmk
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Those tpi setups worth the effort? I have an 89 camaro with a carbed 400 I was thinking of going back to a stock Ecu tpi setup
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Those tpi setups worth the effort? I have an 89 camaro with a carbed 400 I was thinking of going back to a stock Ecu tpi setup
I am going to make an honest judgement that for a healthy 400 the tpi is a tad small and restrictive.
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Those tpi setups worth the effort? I have an 89 camaro with a carbed 400 I was thinking of going back to a stock Ecu tpi setup
I am going to make an honest judgement that for a healthy 400 the tpi is a tad small and restrictive.
Easy fix........boost it. Push that fucking air through it!
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Bump for turbo nova pics!!!!
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Pics of it sitting in the garage collecting dust for the last 3 months? It's half way decent outside and I suspect that I'll be daily driving it here soon Once my teg gets sold. Going to a auto parts swap meet next month. And then after that I'll bust out a little work on it. I got a variable speed buffer and a bunch of different cutting and polishing pads for it for xmas. Gonna see if I can't polish this turd up. Have a pretty good feeling that it's gonna make the body of the car look terrible. Gonna show every ding and dent.
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this thread is seriously lacking turbo...
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thats a twin china/cxracing 16g LQ9...think he said it made like 580fttq. at like 8psi.... if a drift kid can do that (well it did catch fire) you should be able to also :-*
now get crackin.
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Pics of a twin turbo fuel injected sbc or I'm coming to get that thing to give it a proper home
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Can't wait for some boost!
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So I'm picking up some headers off of Craigslist on monday. They are a pair of ceramic coated headman headers. They retail for $400 and they have less than 100 miles on them. They are specific for this car because of the funky front end. Then the plan is to pick up a tpi intake manifold next month and my step dad has a extra ms2 that I'm going to use to fuel and spark. Gonna pick up a China 044 pump and sump the tank and run a new line up front and use the stock fuel line as the return. Looking to do all this under $500 and rock it that way for the year as this is Gina be my new daily driver. Then next summer I'm gonna boost the 327.
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that story doesnt have enough turbo/boost in it... but its a solid plan. get that bitch injected, tuned, and to the meet making more power than a single cam...
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Lol it made terrible power.
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Well its no longer gonna be my daily driver like I had planed. Picked up a 96 accord to daily so I can actually work on this thing. Ted hooked me up with a tpi intake and some sort if ecu thing. So now i need to get fuel setup and then i can piling parts on. Sold my teg now I just have to clean the garage and start cranking on this. Weather is getting a little better and garage time is gonna start happening. I picked up a pack and play for my 6 month old son to hang out in while we are in the garage. Got to start teaching him how to wrench on things while hes young. ;)
Pics to come....
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awesome ;DDD
I use too much brake clean to have children and small animals present lol.
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044 Fuel pump, sump pan, 100 micron fuel filter(pre pump), and intake manifold gasket set has been ordered. Now I just need to get the garage clean and I can start mocking up fuel lines and order my fittings and hose.
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So I found a deal on some -8 braided line on amazon. Got 35' coming my way. Once it shows up I can plumb everything where I need and order up fittings. Fittings and a stock fuel filter is all I need to get me going. Should have this bitch running in a month or 2.
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you only have 2 months... so make it happen in a month :-*
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Fuck. Just realized I need more shit.....
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Nova nova nova!!!!!!!
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Well fuck. Just got a email saying they aren't gonna ship my braided line because of some fuck up on there end. So I'm back to looking for some -8 an braided line. Probably just pick up a couple 5' sticks of hard line and then just get some braided line to hook to the ends so I'm running braided the whole way.
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Hard line is the better way to go. Just have braided connections.
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Hard line is the better way to go. Just have braided connections.
Think that's the plan now. It's just that the braided I was getting was so cheap that I was like fuck it I'll run it the whole way.
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So I need some 1/2" fuel line. Ive look quite a few places and the only thing Ive found is alum hard line in 1/2" or braided. All the Alum says its not rated for hi pressure. So wtf do I use? Do i have to use braided then or do you guys know of an alternative that's budget friendly?
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Why not SS hard line and convert it to SS at the engine bay?
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Why not SS hard line and convert it to SS at the engine bay?
I would be ok with that but finding 1/2" ss line for a decent price is retarded. I found it for $72 for 20'. At that price for what it cost to straighten it out and then go through all the bs I might as well buy braided. Summit and jegs doesnt sell ss hard line in 1/2"
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where is this pile of parts and progress?!?! :-*
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where is this pile of parts and progress?!?! :-*
Soon my friend. I'll post up pics of all the parts and hopefully some progress on monday...
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Ok so instead of taking 20 pics and telling you what each one of the things I ordered was I'll just post a mass pic
So from left to right
spool Of 1/2" nylon fuel line step dad had it so I didn't have to pay anyrhing for it. Cost..... Free :)
-8an Compression fittings for fuel lines.
$18 shipped for both
Bosch 044 fuel pump
$75 shipped
2, -8an fitting for fuel pump
$12 shipped
Some steel core rubber valve cover gaskets
$12 shipped
Got a steel sump pan with 2, 1/2" npt fittings
$40 shipped
2, 1/2" npt alum plugs $5 shipped
Then I picked up a stand alone fuse gang to run any accessory I need like fuel pump or ecu radio ect....
$21 shipped
Some valve cover bolt spreaders to help the valve covers from leaking
Free
picked up a complete early tpi fuel injection intake manifold
$50 picked up from Ted
Got a sbc dizzy with pertronix setup already installed for
$10 and it came with a free coil
got the waterneck for the intake
$5 picked up
Ted is letting me borrow a mefi4 ecu setup to run this untill i pony up the money to buy a mega squirt or find a stock ecu and harness
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And a full intake manifold set. $25
So if I just counted right I got about $273 into it so far. Probably need to spend about another $50 for a few fittings and some other mis shit. Now if I could just come up with time to put it all on.
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FUEL INJECTED NOVA... sweet ;DDD
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So I forgot to post this pic up. Here is the headers I scored that are specific to the novas because of the rear steering. Picked them up from a guy on cl back in January for $50 and they are even ceramic coated. He upgraded to 1.75" primary tube headers
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is that manifold off a camaro/firebird or corvette?
only the corvette one will fit the old style heads, thats why the camaro/firebird ones are so cheap. usually the corvette ones are ~$300 for just the manifold
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Idk what the mani came off of. But the center bolt holes don't have to be redrilled.
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Not so much redrilled as the wrong angle
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Yeah its only 2 bolt holes. And I sure the fuck can hog them bitches to the Wright angle if I need to but they are not the straight drilled holes like the others I've seen. So idk maybe this unit is off of a vet.
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That would be tits!
Do work!!
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Well life has been crazy busy. Won't be injected in time for the dyno day, just ordered up some locking header bolts, a new power valve and a power valve saver kit. Gonna pull the carb this weekend and slam that in and clean it and try and bolt the headers on. Might end up running open headers to the dyno day if I don't get the exhaust done in time. Fuck it will get done what I get done. Also go to throw my pertronix and a flex fan or a clutch fan on. These are my goal anyways.
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Soooooo........ This last weekend was a big fail. Car ran great in the fall when I parked it. Started it in Feb and wouldn't run worth a fuck. Figured on of the backfires killed the power valve. So I pulled the carb cleaned everything up and slapped a new power valve in. Went to put the carb back on and in that time my brother in law pulled the exhaust and the cast manifolds off to slap the headers that are specific for this chassis. And of course they don't fit worth a fuck. If I only want to turn right they are fine. Otherwise the pitman arm slams into the collector. On the pass side I can't even bolt it down because it's hard against the frame. Fml.... pulled them off put the stock cast manis back on and exhaust back on. Fire it up and it still runs like shit. Won't stay running below 2500rpms. Figure out that the points are probably fucked. I had a used pertronix ignitor setup so I slapped it in and did a temp wiring to the batt real quick. Fired right up and runs ok. Now it won't idle down below 1200. So I'm gonna pull the carb back off and see if I can't check my transition slots make sure my blades art bound and see what the fuck is up with this 4 hole toilet. Have a guy I know looking to buy a bunch of chevy parts. Told him I would sell all my extra chevy stuff that I have laying around for $600. I'll take that and a little extra that I have laying around and just buy a lsx and fucking be done with this carb small block bullshit. Sometimes I don't understand why I don't just go straight to the finish line and do what I want in the first place instead of building shit over and over and eventually getting to what I want. In the mean time once it's running I'm just gonna drive it.
Cliffs..... carb rebuilt, points suck, headers don't fit, back to the drawing board, FUCK YOU!
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ITS JUST THE CAR TELLING YOU TO FUCK OFF WITH THIS N/A BULLSHIT
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ITS JUST THE CAR TELLING YOU TO FUCK OFF WITH THIS N/A BULLSHIT
x2!
Just get a damn 4.7/ 5.3 china studs, flip manifolds, and big turbo!
https://sites.google.com/site/sloppywiki/everything-ls/sloppyguidejunkyardturbols
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ITS JUST THE CAR TELLING YOU TO FUCK OFF WITH THIS N/A BULLSHIT
x2!
Just get a damn 4.7/ 5.3 china studs, flip manifolds, and big turbo!
https://sites.google.com/site/sloppywiki/everything-ls/sloppyguidejunkyardturbols
4.8L... but qft on the rest.
i understand why you wanted to keep the gen1 and carb shit, then boost later. but really it just seems like a loosing battle... LS + big china turbo, rhmt everything in between.
O0
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That's pretty much my plan. Lsx, quick rhmt rebuild/hone/turbo and slap it in and rock out.
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Looks like I might have a lead on a complete 1999 lq4 with cathedral port heads, a full wiring harness, ecu, bcm, ls1 intake and a truck intake for $600. Needs a full gasket set. Guy I know got it pulled the heads for inspection of everything and he said it all looks good and just needs to be slapped back together. I will have to wait and see.
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BUY!
what trans you have? th400?
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BUY!
what trans you have? th400?
Yes and yes
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Ok, done with all this small block shit. Picking up the lq4 up on sunday.
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Ok, done with all this small block shit. Picking up the lq4 up on sunday.
WIN
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Ok, done with all this small block shit. Picking up the lq4 up on sunday.
WIN
:noel:
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About damn time!
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so your getting it Sunday... dropping it in Sunday night... couple nights of some wiring... Thursday/Friday couple trips around the block... then to the dyno Saturday morning? good plan. see ya there :-*
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Lol wish it was all that easy. I'm borrowing money I don't have to buy this engine. And on top if that it needs a rebuild since it's torn down. If I didn't have a kid and if I had money and if I wasn't working the next 6 days I might have a slight chance of doing all that. Don't have the money to overnight spoon parts from Japan. ...
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:'(.... I'm just glad to see this happening (Chad = fail ::))
you gonna be at the meet with this thing carbonated at least?
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:'(.... I'm just glad to see this happening (Chad = fail ::))
you gonna be at the meet with this thing carbonated at least?
That's the plan.
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Fuck my life..... I have a whole lot if work ahead of me.....
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looks like fun ;DDD
kiddie pool is a nice touch :noel:
DO WORK!
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The kiddie pool works great for rebuilding carbs in. That way I don't leak gas all over my driveway.
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(Chad = fail ::))
:'(
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(Chad = fail ::))
:'(
:-*
your falling behind.
AJ has a driving Nova, engine, fuel, trans, wiring... needs assembly, turbo, running, boost... you just have an engine?... but i guess im just a spectator, so take that for whatever lol.
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Oh and I don't know if they are any better, but I just picked up a full set of ls3 valve springs keepers and retainers for free.
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free is my kind of pricing... :Jew:
but if i remember right whats his name was running like $80 set of springs in his Fairmont build. might be worth looking into?
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Get a set of Pac valve springs
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/600-lift-pac-1218-beehive-valve-springs.html (http://www.briantooleyracing.com/600-lift-pac-1218-beehive-valve-springs.html)
China man head studs
Gen3 (3 size) China LSX headstuds
http://www.alpermotorsports.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1174 (http://www.alpermotorsports.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1174)
Gen4 (2 size) China LSX head studs
http://www.alpermotorsports.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2434 (http://www.alpermotorsports.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2434)
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(Chad = fail ::))
:'(
:-*
your falling behind.
AJ has a driving Nova, engine, fuel, trans, wiring... needs assembly, turbo, running, boost... you just have an engine?... but i guess im just a spectator, so take that for whatever lol.
You are not wrong but his nova was free, mine will not be :-*
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lol... just trying to motivate both of you guys... wanna see turbo LSX Nova;s on these pages! ;DDD
but, since your here and im busting your ballz...
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found it hiding behind my store...
:-*
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Stanced out mini! Lol
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wonder if the mini is honda powered.
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So I'm gonna pull the carb tomorrow and try to get this thing to idle down lower than 1200rpms. I opened the rear blades a touch when I had it off the car last time and no matter how much I turn the idle screw out it won't idle down. They were completely shut when I pulled it off.
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Nova made 196hp 280tq. Huge improvment over last year. Like another 15hp and 60tq and the only thing that has been changed was I put a pertronix ignitor in. But it was also a different dyno. So I take it with a grain of salt.
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SO I have a bunch of parts up for sale on craigslist. I got a guy that says hes gonna buy some shit tonight. If he comes through I will be ordering up a rebuilt kit and some head bolts or studs. Still on the fence about using the china studs but I keep reading about how people are having good results with them.
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Ive got some parts sold. So I ordered up a gasket kit from ebay. $126 shipped. Got some more parts to sell and then I'll order more parts up. Thinking of ordering head studs, motor mounts, and a oil pump. That way I can assemble it and then put it on the nova. Or at least look at it all assembled on my engine stand... Gonna start a new list of shit I need to get it running.
Have a friend that wants to buy my running 327. Said he would give me $800 from air filter to oil pan. Think if he does I'll turn right around and order up micro squirt and the lsx wiring harness.
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;DDD
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Well fuck. This money is just burning a hole in my pocket. I can't even sleep so I just ordered up head studs....lol gonna roll the dice and see if the china ones are gonna work.
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Attaboy!
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Well got a text at 5:31 am this morning with a guy say he's waiting at the grocery store for me to bring the heads to him. He lives 70 miles away and said he would pick them up from me at work sometime between 6am and noon. I was pretty eager to get these which make me feel like I let them go for to little. But then again I haven't put any real effort into selling them. So now I'm another $225 richer. :-) Now if I had time to tear the block down I could find out weather or not I need new cam, main or rod bearings and whether or not this thing needs rings, a cam and lifters. For now I think I'm gonna just put the money on the shelf until i get a chance to tear into it. I am going to order up these mounts today though.
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=201026574718&alt=web (http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=201026574718&alt=web)
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Good news butches. Engine looks minty. inside. Lifters still had nice clean oil inside them. And all the rollers look good. SO I tore it down to the point to where Im now gonna clean the shit out of it and reassemble. Dont even think Im gonna double check with platigauge. IDK well see how eager I am. At any rate not much for pics but I did pull apart and label everything like I always do
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Clean oil on lifter
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All tagged and bagged
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And these showed up in the mail today. Missing 1 bolt. Got a hold of the ebay seller and hes sending few extra in the mail. I was gonna make my own adapter plates but for $40 shipped im not even gonna waste my time
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Now Im gonna head out into the garage and see what it will cost me to ship some shit to the other side of the county and hopefully make another $125 to fund some more parts.
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Are you going to open up the ring gaps a little for boost? :noel:
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Are you going to open up the ring gaps a little for boost? :noel:
I dont know. Ive Seen lots of people making a lot more power than me will with stock ring gap.
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Purple power driveway and asphalt cleaner is the shit for cleaning parts. All I did was spray it on, didn't even really let it soak and moved the cleaner around a little bit with a washcloth. Turned out pretty good.
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You can see I only cleaned 1 cap, but the rest of them are right next to the clean one. This stuff fucking rocks. I can't image what it would do if I had a nylon brush to scrub it with.
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driveway cleaner is the shit. :noel:
so you just bolt your gen1 SBC mounts to those plates and your done?
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Yes sir.
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way too easy. not even sure you can call that an engine swap. more just replacement engine like that.
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Lol. Well that's kinda like saying putting a f/h series in a civic isn't a swap.
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Lol. Well that's kinda like saying putting a f/h series in a civic isn't a swap.
this is like B-series into an EG/EH Civic. shit your using the stock style mounts with a little plate bolted to them.
wiring on the other hand... but your taking a motor out from 1955 and swapping one in from 2000.
maybe im to use to builds like danmah's with gangsta ass engine/trans mounts, and other riggery. O0
fuck... i just remembered i seen something you would like... ill have to dig the link back up.
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easier to find than i though... http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1408499-starting-lm7-volvo-245-wagon-swap.html (http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1408499-starting-lm7-volvo-245-wagon-swap.html) <~ Holset power
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I like it. I'm just gonna try and clean a little here and there and then get it re assembled. Then I need to pull my 327 and radiator and do a little timing on my inner fenders and drop this thing in.
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Hx-52 time!
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Hx-52 time!
That's what I've been thinking. If I can't find one for a decent price I'm just gonna pull the trigger on a Ebay t72 unit.
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I am excited about this, do work!
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I am excited about this, do work!
I'm trying but man, having a kid sure does suck up all your free time. I love hanging out with him he a fucking blast. It's like a mini me....lol I love to watch him get frustrated and pissed off. Now I know what an ass I look like when I'm mad....lol
I have a feeling it's gonna be a few months b4 i even get this thing fully assembled and ready to put in the car.
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I have two girls, they take up most of my "free" time. I understand.
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And this showed up yesterday....
A full gasket set.
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Well I got a drive by cable ls6 throttle body coming. Scored that fucker for $45 shipped. Picking up a gto oil pan, pick up and windage tray on saturday for $200. Head studs should be here by next week. Then I'll probably hit a wall for a bit and not really pick up anything else for a while.
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well, with all that you should have a complete longblock? next up, turbo and engine management!
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And injectors and fuel pump and all that jazz.
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Hiprofile for injectors!
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Hiprofile for injectors!
That's my plan
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china pump dude never come threw?
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china pump dude never come threw?
Nope. I got totally fucked on that deal. Filed a PayPal claim. Was told to send the pump back for a refund. Was $30 to ship that pos to china (paypal covered shipping) then when paypal couldn't track shipping once it left the county (china don't give a fuck about customer's) after 10 days of not being able to track it they said I was fucked because there was no way to show that he received the pump. And I had to eat the $77.00 So I lost on that deal.
The biggest problem was that it said it shipped from multiple locations so I though it was coming from usa. Nope........ fml. I should have filled the pump with sand b4 i shipped it but he was just gonna turn around and resell it to some other poor chump.
Oh and the throttle body I was gonna pick up I got my money refunded because it didn't have any sensors on it and I'm pretty sure he drilled the throttle blade to make it idle better. So I asked him to refund my paypal. Don't need another headache.
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what pump do you need?
I got the two 340's I'm using for cheap if you can use that style
Sucks you got burned on the china one, hit me up if you want one of these 340's
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I need a external pump. I was gonna run 1 bosch 044 I have the an fittings for it and everything. Just need the pump and a filter. I have the pre pump filer, or should I say screen.
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china pump dude never come threw?
Nope. I got totally fucked on that deal. Filed a PayPal claim. Was told to send the pump back for a refund. Was $30 to ship that pos to china (paypal covered shipping) then when paypal couldn't track shipping once it left the county (china don't give a fuck about customer's) after 10 days of not being able to track it they said I was fucked because there was no way to show that he received the pump. And I had to eat the $77.00 So I lost on that deal.
The biggest problem was that it said it shipped from multiple locations so I though it was coming from usa. Nope........ fml. I should have filled the pump with sand b4 i shipped it but he was just gonna turn around and resell it to some other poor chump.
Oh and the throttle body I was gonna pick up I got my money refunded because it didn't have any sensors on it and I'm pretty sure he drilled the throttle blade to make it idle better. So I asked him to refund my paypal. Don't need another headache.
Paypal tried to give me that bs, I did a charge back and said fuck them!
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So some parts have been being sold so I've been replacing them with new parts.
Gto front sump pan, pickup and windage tray.
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China head studs
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For some reason, I trust those head studs. lol. :noel:
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Lol seems retarded but I've only heard of a few people having problems. And those were with alum blocks.
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Well I was gonna go to my local metal supply and pick up some material and make some sub frame connectors, but summit was having free shipping on anything over $99 so I ordered a set of global west sub connectors. Last thing I want is this car to turn into a taco once I hammer the power down.
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mmm. tacos...
was gonna ask about that the other day... what other chassis/suspension mods have taken place? and are planned?
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Well I'm gonna keep the worn out mono leaf springs in the rear. Upgrade to some lakewood rear shocks or some other adjustable rear shock. Cal tracks or something similar. Then I will do the c clip eliminator in the rear end. The rear end is already a 8.2" 10 bolt with posi. I'm pretty sure once this car starts getting busy it's not going to be getting traction. Then maybe one day a mini tub for the rear end. And most important, it's gonna need the brakes upgraded. 4 way manual drum brakes and 600whp is asking for death.
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Overnight parts from Japan. ....oh wait....... wrong thread.
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Overnight parts from Summit Racing in Sparks NV. I love free shipping. Especially if it's overnighted for free....lol
So as you can see, my sub frame connectors showed up. Now I just need to get under the car and burn them in.
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Ok, so I got the block cleaned the other day, checked my cam bearings with a set of snap gauges, worked pretty good. Cam bearings could probably be replaced but fuck it, they are still with in spec. So I did a quick hone and cleaned the block surface so the new head gasket has a nice clean surface. Then I pulled the #1 piston out of my ziplock and pulled the rings off. Checked the top ring, measured out at .031" and the second ring was .039" seems a little on the loose side for me. But idk. Might buy new rings, might say fuck it and run it. Gonna check a few more cyl, and then make a decision. On the 327 I opened the ring gap up to .022" and .028" and never had a problem. They were cast pistons and 4.060 bore, the lq4 is a 4" bore and I believe they have hypereutectic pistons. This is gonna be a street motor that I beat on boosted so........ fuck it, on to the pics
Dirty
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Clean
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Quick and dirty hone. I spent all of maybe 2 min to hone all 8 cylinders.
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So I'm gonna pull the rest of the piston rings off and check ring gap on those.
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So here's what I got for end gaps. Seems a little sloppy....... what would rhmt do?
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seems consistent.... I'd run it. O0
what's the factory specs? service limit?
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http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/926116-lq4-specs.html (http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/926116-lq4-specs.html)
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ok so heres what I got so far.
I plastigauged my mains and got,
1. .0017
2. .0017
3. .0017
4. .0017
5. .0018
service limit on them is .0025 so im good........kinda
bearings have some scoring in them like it ran a hunk of shit through the oil and scored them, but the crank is mint so im gonna order a new set.
Ive only been able to plastigauge rods # 2, 4, 6, and 8 and they are
2. .0016
4. .0017
6. .0015
8. .0016
Ninja edit.....
1. .0015
3. .0017
5. .0017
7. .0017
service limit on them is .003 so im good there, and they look pretty minty. so im gonna run them. Gonna check 1, 3, 5 and 7 for shits and giggles
SO at the end of the day, I think im gonna order main bearings, and maybe some rings. Still on the fence with the rings.
those are
top ring .030-.035
2nd ring .039-.043
service limit on those are suppose to be top ring is .023 and 2nd ring limit is .033
so im about .010 over on both those but im thinking im just gonna say fuck it and run them.
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Oh and pics
.0017ish. Close enough for me.
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Scoring have 3 that link like that and 2 that look good.
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Minty crank
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Your plan sounds good. Leave the rings, better to be a touch loose than butted and broken.
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Loose and sloppy she will be then.
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i vote: hone, clean, and reassemble with MLS/studs.
that shit as been in the mains im sure for 30k, it will still be like that in 30more after you toss a rod...
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Idk man, I'm sure it would probably be fine, but for $30 why not replace them.
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Idk man, I'm sure it would probably be fine, but for $30 why not replace them.
This.
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Well sold the ss trunk trim and made $300 today. Welded in my subframe connectors tonight. In rhmt fashion I flux cored that shit.
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And here is some flux core madness. Laying on your back under a car welding above your head in a garage that's 88° @ 9 pm at night is not my idea of fun. And on top of that it kept trying to catch the undercoating on fire. So I would weld for 10 seconds and then put the fire out and then do it all over again.
Drivers side rear
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Pass side rear
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Pass side front
Welding next to the fuel line was kinda sketchy
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Looking good! Leave the motor as is. Ring gap is just fine!
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Might have missed it, but did you level the car up before welding them in?
Not talking about on the suspension, the actual car itself.
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I did pull out the tape measure and the car was 1/16 of a inch different from front to back. So I just left it like that. Pretty sure the tolerances from gm in 1966 weren't even that close.
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I did pull out the tape measure and the car was 1/16 of a inch different from front to back. So I just left it like that. Pretty sure the tolerances from gm in 1966 weren't even that close.
Measured from a level floor?
If so good!
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I did pull out the tape measure and the car was 1/16 of a inch different from front to back. So I just left it like that. Pretty sure the tolerances from gm in 1966 weren't even that close.
Measured from a level floor?
If so good!
Yes sir. From the smooth hot concrete in my garage.
And main bearings for the nova ordered. $29.67 shipped. got to love rock auto.
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Well tracking shows that my main bearings will be here friday. Gonna Try and get everything clean up and ready for final assembly. Also ordered some arp ultra molly lube for all my main bolts, rod bolts and head studs. It will be here tomorrow.
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Ok so I got my new bearings, and some arp bolt lube. Shit works well.
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Got them installed and plastigauged.
Came out like (I like to write the results of all my measurements right on the parts so I don't loose a piece of paper with everything written down)
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1. .0016
2. .0014
3. .0013
4. .0016
5. .0016
And thrust play is .003
Everything is Just a hair tighter than b4 but the bearings are mint. So I re cleaned everything after I checked everything and installed the crank with some assembly lube and now that's all done.
Hope to have the pistons all cleaned by Monday and installed.
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sweet.... moar! ;DDD
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sweet.... moar! ;DDD
Agreed. Looking good, this thread was a good read/skim looking at pics. :D
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Ok so I have the whole bottom end together. Plastigauged 1, 3, 5 and 7 also since I didn't have the numbers b4.
1. .0015
2. .0016
3. .0017
4. .0017
5. .0017
6. .0015
7. .0017
8. .0016
So all is good there and here is the pics.
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So next steps are to paint block, install cam/chain/gear, inspect oil pump and then install or order new, paint install covers.
Hope to have all that done by next weekend.
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Looking good!
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I haven't had a whole lot of time to do much work. But I did manage to get the block painted, cam and chain cleaned and installed, oil pump pulled apart and checked, looked good so I cleaned it up and installed it. Cleaned, lubed and installed the lifters in 2, 4, 6 & 8. Son just woke up from his nap so out of rebuild mode and into dad mode.
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I have some money burning a hole in my pocket. I need to order up a megasquirt. So if any of your bitches know of anyone selling one let me know.
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Considered VEMS? Almost as cheap as MS and seems to be way better. I know it does 6 cyls not sure about 8.
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Considered VEMS? Almost as cheap as MS and seems to be way better. I know it does 6 cyls not sure about 8.
I haven't even looked into it. Never heard of it. Looks like I'll be Googleing it....
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Ok, so I looked at vems. That shit is spendy. Starting at $700. And that doesn't include everything I need.
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Microsquirt will work with that trigger and is cheap as fuck.
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Hp tuners and a factory shorten harness?
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Hp cost to much. I can get a ms2 with everything I need for like $370 and it's fairly easy to use with all the other denmah files out there. If I was to use a stock ecu with a editor I would go with efilive.
And I thought about doing hp/efilive and having it tuned, problem is cost, and even if ross was to tune it he's 80 miles from me and I'm not about to tow it that far for the first fire up and try to fix all the small shit that might be wrong and waste his time while I chase down shit like oil leaks or what ever it may be.
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Hp cost to much. I can get a ms2 with everything I need for like $370 and it's fairly easy to use with all the other denmah files out there. If I was to use a stock ecu with a editor I would go with efilive.
And I thought about doing hp/efilive and having it tuned, problem is cost, and even if ross was to tune it he's 80 miles from me and I'm not about to tow it that far for the first fire up and try to fix all the small shit that might be wrong and waste his time while I chase down shit like oil leaks or what ever it may be.
Pay Ross in coffee or what ever to come to you. :noel:
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Hp cost to much. I can get a ms2 with everything I need for like $370 and it's fairly easy to use with all the other denmah files out there. If I was to use a stock ecu with a editor I would go with efilive.
And I thought about doing hp/efilive and having it tuned, problem is cost, and even if ross was to tune it he's 80 miles from me and I'm not about to tow it that far for the first fire up and try to fix all the small shit that might be wrong and waste his time while I chase down shit like oil leaks or what ever it may be.
Pay Ross in coffee or what ever to come to you. :noel:
I would feel even worse when he showed up here and it had problems.....lol
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Well, I pulled the trigger. Megasquirt is on its way. It cost me $385.22 for everything I needed shipped. Now I get to test my soldering skills....lol
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Well since my last post I've been hording parts....
Ms and most all the parts I need.
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Picked up a couple of electric fans from the wrecking yard. First one is from a volvo. Alot like the taurus fan and the second one is a taurus fan
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Then I took the heads and the rear cover and valve covers over to the local 4x4 shop because they have a parts washer and he said he would throw my greasy ass parts in and wash them for a cheese burger and a milkshake.
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And then I realized that my fuel rail that I have is a returnless style. Well for what they want for the china rails i was able to pick this up for about half of the cost of the ebay return bling bling rails or a aftermarket fpr that I would have to t in and this even came with bolts........score whole thing for $40 shipped
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Merica bitches..lol
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And then I started looking for a throttle body, picked this up with sensors for $35 shipped.
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That's it for now. Valve spring gs are over at my step dad's hose to see what springs I'm gonna use. Probably just the ls2 springs and throw some .030 shims under them for just a bump more holding power. Once I get them back I can start installing them back into the head and start assembly of the rest of the motor.
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I love it! I just bought the same manifold & TB from ebay real cheap. I bought it just to make spacers for the medium LS2-sized & tall LS1-sized injectors. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Sweet, well I'm in the process of selling a K member for a f body and some sway bars. If they sell I'll be ordering up some injectors :-)
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Sweet, well I'm in the process of selling a K member for a f body and some sway bars. If they sell I'll be ordering up some injectors :-)
What k-member? what year range is it for?
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Sweet, well I'm in the process of selling a K member for a f body and some sway bars. If they sell I'll be ordering up some injectors :-)
What k-member? what year range is it for?
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,22911.0.html (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,22911.0.html)
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Sent you a pm russ.
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Bump
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Lol. In a few weeks I'll have a little time to actually work on this thing. Hope to have updates soon. Trying to sell this k member. Everyone that says there gonna buy it keeps flaking or coming up short and wanting me to sell if for what it cost to ship it.
On that note
1. Need water pump
2. Need alternator
3. Need belt tensioner and belt
4. Need starter
5. Need bosch 044 fuel pump
6. Need torque converter for th400
7. Need 34 element sprag for th400
8. Need intercooler
9. Need injectors
10. Need charge pipe material
11. Need bov
12. Need wastegate
13. Need 4" exhaust material
14. Need 72mm turbo
15. Need oil feed and return lines
16. Radiator hoses/adapters
And then i Need time to put this all together. I don't need everything on the list to make it run, but I sure would like to get most of it before I set it in for its last time.
Then before I put it in the car, I need to pull my 327 that's in the car and sell it. Pretty sure I have someone lined up to by my engine now but I think I might have low balled my self pretty bad on it. If he bails on the motor im sure I can sell it for more and pretty fast. Is $800 to little for a rebuilt 327 with less than 1500 miles on it complete from air cleaner to oil pan? It has .060 flat top pistons, camel hump 2.02/1.60 heads, single plane intake, 600 cfm Holley carb, and it tuned. New lifters, bearings, rings, valve stem seal, all new gaskets, new alt, new water pump, dizzy ect. it put down 200hp/300tq through a th400 and stock small ass cast iron exhaust manifolds and duel 2" exhaust. It get 19/20 mpg on the hwy too. And it burns clean as fuck.
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I use to sell 327 rebuilt/remans for $800... but that was 7yrs. ago they are probably worth more. :noel:
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I use to sell 327 rebuilt/remans for $800... but that was 7yrs. ago they are probably worth more. :noel:
Was it complete from carb to oil pan and with 2.02/1.60 heads?
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I use to sell 327 rebuilt/remans for $800... but that was 7yrs. ago they are probably worth more. :noel:
Was it complete from carb to oil pan and with 2.02/1.60 heads?
No bone stock long block, no manifolds :noel:
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Bought a low mileage water pump with tensioner and fan, and a alternator from the same lq4 for $114 shipped tonight. Supposedly have a guy lined up to buy a spohn k member I have on thursday. So if that sells I'll probably order up some hi profile injectors.
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Hurry up!!!! At this rate my nova will be done before yours. Ok that's a lie lol
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I'm stacking parts right now. It's like Christmas at my house with all the packages arriving.....Ok that's a little lie.
Mechanical fan, water pump, tensioner, alternator, starter, fuel pump have all been ordered and have arrived or are arriving. Gonna pull the 327 next weekend and then that's gone, and I'll have some money to order up injectors, turbo and other parts.
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Nothing better then a nice big pile of parts, a white bord with a nice big list and putting in some work!
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Pulling the 327 out this weekend. Then the real work can start.
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Time for a heart transplant.....
Pulled in and ready for disassembly
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Say goodbye to the 327......
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She's a heartless whore....
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Nice, so is the lq4 going in na, and then you will add boost or is it all going in together?
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Lq4 is almost together. Once I figure out what I'm doing with valve springs(most likely stock) then I can put my new valve steam seals in and slap the heads on and drop it in for mock up. Gonna do some trimming in the shock towers maybe, it's gonna get a ebay t72 72mm turbo(I know it's small but like said I want instaboost), and some Hiprofile injectors. I have a lot of parts piled up at the moment but it's all hinging on me dropping this thing in and starting the mock up.
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I have never built an LSx personally, but everything I read, especially if you are going to add boost is to add a set of valve springs. I know the pac1218 springs are commonly recommended.
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I've read that too. But just wondering if they are overkill for what I need. I don't really plan on reving this fucker out, or cranking the boost to the moon. I've seen lots of 100% stock boosted setup do fine with 12lbs. So im gonna give it a run. I have a set of ls2 valve springs but from what I've red they are almost identical to the lq4 springs that are in the 317 heads that I have. If they blow open under boost I'll just swap them out while it's in the car. Just going for bare minimum ring now to get it rolling and boosted.
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Gonna be bitchen either way once that fucking POS carb is gone. :evil:
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Carb, shit I'm getting rid of the whole small block attached to it. Btw, u back from vacation yet? I need to pull my gas tank and bring it down to weld the sump pan on.
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I would do a set of Pac springs, might be over kill n/a but there cheap insurance if you make more power!
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Well after talking to josh ross it sounds like a trunion upgrade is a must do on these rocker arms. So it looks like that's needed b4 some springs. Waiting for a guy to come pick up my 327 so I can buy some shit.
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So instead of trunions I picked these up so I can get the head together enough so I can bolt them to the block and at least get the motor in the car. http://www.alexsparts.com/ls1-series-drop-in-valve-spring-kit-gen-iii-iv-vortec-hp-spring-kit/ (http://www.alexsparts.com/ls1-series-drop-in-valve-spring-kit-gen-iii-iv-vortec-hp-spring-kit/)
Almost identical specs as the pac 1218 but they aren't beehives. And they come with keepers and retainers and locks.
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Springs came in on saturday. Got a chance today to jump out into the garage and put the valves back in the heads.
Pics.........
Once I figured out what valve stem seal went on what stem (btw orange on exhaust and black on intake) it went together pretty quick.
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Used this big ass compressor that I borrowed from my step dad. Works awesome.
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Valves were in great shape..... or so I thought. This is what they looked like when I pulled them apart. Seats look great and so do the valves
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So all the exhaust valves had this mark on them. It almost feels like a crack, but you can tell it's from the keeper. But it's weird that it's just on the exhaust valves.
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New springs
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here I tried to take a pic of specs but what ever
130 lb seat pressure
355 lbs at .590 lift
Max lift is .590
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Installed and ready to go.
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So my 327 is supposedly sold to a friend. He's suppose to pay me for it on thursday. I he doesn't pay me by Thursday then I'm going to sell it for almost double. (Long story) but once I get money I'm ordering so Hiprofile injectors and a turbo and the rocker arm trunions.
Then hopefully get the motor in next week.
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you lap the valves in?
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No. The valve face was super even and no carbon or pitting on either side so I just left it.
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Bring that dam tank down and lets get it welded up. Got back last Sunday so I'm good to go :p
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Bring that dam tank down and lets get it welded up. Got back last Sunday so I'm good to go :p
I will soon enough. I'll that I will be bringing though is the gas tank and the sump pan. I want to get the motor in and mocked up. Might be bringing some other shit for you to weld on as well. Will have to wait and see.
Talked to ross about some shit last night. Said the valves that I was concerned about is nothing to be concerned about. He also gave me a great idea for catch can setup.
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Well i got up a couple hours early today b4 i headed off to work. Got one head bolted down.......
All cleaned and some alpermotorsports ebay $100 head studs. Ebay $120 engine gasket set. So I checked the head gaskets out and they look great. Mls, so I copper sprayed them and shinched everything down. Torqued down great. Got 1 side done. Hope to get the other head on this week.
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Other head cranked down
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pic fail.... only a passenger head in your last 2 posts... ::)
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Fixed, now I need help selecting a turbo. My origanal thought was to use a t72
Compressor Wheel diameter: 72.35 /102.86
Turbine wheel diameter : 68.40 /79.00
Then I was thinking about a t76
inducer:76.71mm
exducer:102.36mm
Turbine:
A/R 0.96
inducer:64.5mm
exducer:74.5mm
so I want a fast spool. The t72 compressor map shows that I'll make 10 psi at about 1800rpms. And the t76 makes 10 psi at 2500rpms. But they both run out of steam at about 5800. Now I was planning on using the 72, but last night I started looking at holsets. And a 68mm hx55 looks pretty sexy too. Problem is just finding one. Idk I need help here. I can't find turbine maps for anything. Just compressor.
And I don't want to spend more than $375
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I like the turbine specs better on the T72, vs the T76 you posted, though they are both a little small for running as a single imho, if anything I would think the T76 would spool as quick or quicker, but would likely surge. As a comparison the smallest turbine wheel in the commonly run as a single BW S400 chassis is a 74/83. The other thing is you really don't gain much on the compressor either as the exducer on both wheels is just the same, so it is really more just a trim change. A pair of those T76's would be way more fun... :P .
Good luck finding turbine wheel info for anything that is not a Garrett, there is a little bit of BW stuff out there, but that is about it.
My opinion given your budget is to try the T72, and start saving up another $5000 for a good converter, trans and turbo, as power is addictive.
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I've wanted to do the t72 with the .96 exhaust housing. Then when I started to inspect more into specs I was thinking if using the t76 with a .84 housing.
Idk, then I saw where a guy used a hx55 on a bone stock ls2 and made full tq by 3k. And that sounds pretty fucking good to me. The specs on his hx55 were
The compressor inducer is - 65mm
The compressor exducer is - 98mm
The turbine inducer is - 86mm
The turbine exducer is - 72mm
The turbine housing critical area is - 19cm2
Lol I know how addicting power can be. Sometimes it takes over and you end up going backwards. As much fun as my 440whp integra was, it still wasn't as fun as my 200whp crx was. The rhb5 was so much fun. Was like a endless supply of nitrous. Boost was always on tap.
My goal is to get it turboed, work on rear, brakes, converter and trans, mini tubs, cal tracks and then wheels tires.
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HX55 has a much better turbine wheel size vs the T72/T76 for your application and is just a better turbo if you can find one for your price range. If not the T72 the T76 really doesn't give you any benefits over the T72.
An HX52 with the billet wheel is another option, I have seen them floating around from time to time for good prices.
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Ok sweet. Thanks for the info. Goldfarb has a hx55 right now and that's where I got those specs. I sent him a email to see what other holsets he has. If I don't hear back from him I'm gonna call him on monday. How do you think the holset will spool?
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These are all small turbos spool will never be an issue.
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I understand that but I'm just wondering where they will start to rock and roll and when they move from rock and roll to death/speed metal....lol
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I understand that but I'm just wondering where they will start to rock and roll and when they move from rock and roll to death/speed metal....lol
Depends on tune, cam, compression, converter, ect... No way to put a good number on it.
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Ok, so I got my injectors from Hiprofile at injectornation.com today. And painted my valve covers. Also put my knock sensor cover on and knock sensors installed. No pics of that though.
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Yep, broken easy out inside that bolt that's broke off inside the head....... might end up pulling the head and taking it to a machine shop after I try drilling it in the morning ::)
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That sucks. Easy outs usually make me want to fuck my asshole with a cactus. The only kind I use have a reverse drill bit on one side and a stubby swirly tip on the other. I've never broken one of those, and 1/3 of the time the bolt twists out while drilling (since it's done in reverse).
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I've used reverse drill bits before, but I already had this drilled out and figured I would give a easy out a try. 1st, only, and last time I will use one.
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Unless you have a carbide drill bit handy, don't waste your time and drill bits trying to drill through that easy out. They are hardened and really just don't take to drilling through well.
That situation is probably the single thing that drives me the most crazy, as I am always sure I can get it out with an easy out and almost always end up at a machine shop... :'(
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I would weld a nut to it!
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I do have a set of carbide bits, if it doesn't work I'll try welding a nut to it. But being that it's recessed in the head I have a feeling that it will end up at the machine shop.
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I do have a set of carbide bits, if it doesn't work I'll try welding a nut to it. But being that it's recessed in the head I have a feeling that it will end up at the machine shop.
I think it would be fine, remember the weld will not stick to the head, also during the welding the whole area gets hot and might even make it easier to get out.
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So the first exhaust manifold bolt I ever broke was in a ford escape v6. Due to the position of the motor I couldn't drill it out while it was in the car. I had to remove the whole engine to drill it. Even with 90° drill adaptor I didn't have enough room in the engine bay. So one I had the motor out I used a reverse direction drill bit, it caught wile I was drilling g it out and backed itself right out.
So it looks like this is very common with the lsx engines with the stock bolts. Pretty much every successful thread I've read was people welding a nut to it and letting it cool for like 30 Seconds and it backs right out. I guess it could be worse. It could still be in the car and I could be trying to do this.
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twin 57 trims
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The thought has defiantly crossed my mind.
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I have removed 1000's of broken exhaust bolts/studs from ls and triton motors and everything in between. I have had great success welding nuts on. Sometimes it takes a few nuts, lots of back forth, back forth. I am a pro at getting broken/seized bolts out. My shop is known for magic lol.
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the ebay ones work great, with the bigger compressor wheel, made over 800 on them, spool by 1400-1600 lol
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the ebay ones work great, with the bigger compressor wheel, made over 800 on them, spool by 1400-1600 lol
The On3 that most seem to use?
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I talked to ross last night. He said they just used the good old ebay t3/t3 57 trims. At the sum of like $130 bucks each.
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I got a China 57 on the integra. its a gsp unit. spent a little more on mine. seems to be working fine, had it up to 13psi or so... but also hasn't moved in like 2 months lol. ::)
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Idk. The maps for 2 57 trims fit pretty nice.
I have pics of it but photo bucket is being gay but at 10 psi and 2k it's on the map and at 6200 and 14psi is its still on the map.
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I had dreams of a couple 57 trims on the novacorn mounted low and back like a factory would do it. lol.
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57 trim, 10 psi 2k rpms
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same but 14psi and 6200 rpms
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TWINS
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dustin collects 10 internets
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My father in law has been in town all week. So I haven't spent any time in the garage. Think I'm gonna try to weld onto the broken exhaust bolt this weekend or next week and see where I get with it. Then if I am successful with that I'll move forward with the rocker arm trunion replacement and finish assembling the heads. Then it's onto dropping the motor into the car and see how she sits. And see what needs to be trimmed where.
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So I tried like hell to get this broken easy out bit out of the head. First I tried just welding a nut on. Let it cool off and then tried working it back and forth. Just comes off and I'm left with the bit still stuck. So I tried welding on the end of the bit to build it up so I could then weld a big nut on it to really get some heat into it. Just twist off......fuck!!! Looks like I'll be pulling the head and taking it to a machine shop to have them drill it out.
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On a good note, I traded in my 40cf tank for my welder in and upgraded to a 125cf tank. Dude behind the counter hooked it up huge. Only charged me $97 out the door with the tank filled and everything. And now that I have the correct tip and wire this welder does a pretty good job.
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forgot about that. so i tried that the other day on an LS/PR4 head. cranked welder to nog (3/4 is as high as i usually go) welded nut to it. as soon as the fucker wasnt glowing anymore i spun it right out. worked champ.
it was still stupid hot when i removed it. seriously as soon as it wasnt that scary orange, i threw a wrench on it.
is the weld getting down there? or is the wire just sticking to the nut and filling it?
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Well the first few times it was sticking to the nut and would spin right off. So then I said fuck it, put the clamp right on the block and welded a nice little mound on the end of the easy out (it's broke off about 1/8" in the head) then slapped a nut over my mound and let her rip. I mean the whole nut was bright orange when I was done. Tried it while it was still hot, also tried it once it cooled off. No matter what I did it would pretty much just break the weld off the easy out or leave the mound on there and break the nut off that. Shit I even tried welding a bolt on top of the mound. Still a no go. And of course the easy out broke off at a angle so trying to drill it make the bit just want to walk off to the edge of the bolt hole.
If it was just a busted off bolt I think the welding a nut trick would work. But since it's a easy out I think I'm pretty well fucked. Gonna probably try it again next week but if nothing then machine shop it is.
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Got it out.......
I figured if I could get the broken bit out I could then get the broken bolt out. Well first I welded a washer to the broken bit, then while that was still cherry hot I welded a long bolt to it. It then attached another bolt to the end of the bolt with a nut and made a makeshift slide hammer with a brake flaring holder. And then i yarded on that bitch about 20 times and got it pulled out. I then welded a nut on the drilled out bolt and slowly worked it back and forth once it wasn't red anymore. Took about 5 min just working a little back and forth until it came out. I think I'll have to run a thread chaser down it just to make sure the threads are ok but they look fine.
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i think you got it hot enough. ;DDD
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Well played sir, well played. O0
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Welder was on nig nog setting!
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Oh fuck yA bud!!!!!
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So monday I'm gonna bang out the rocker arm trunion upgrade
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Did you decide on turbo's yet?
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Not yet. Kinda up in the air still. Once I get the motor dropped in I'll have a little better scope on what's up. Twin ebay 57 trims sound pretty tempting. But then it's more plumbing and shit. Leaning towards the 76mm with the .81ar exhaust housing.
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Don't get Brett started on turbo selection, last weekend he was all over the map lol.
Went from twins to singles to blower to n/a to bbc tunnel ram to a tripple stack of Doritos. Think he forgot his add meds.
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Lmfao
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Welded nut FTW!
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Fucking macgyver on that home made slide hammer, I'll have to remember that one.
Tried posting that 3 times on the bitch house, it doesn't like me today.
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I knew what needed to happen. It was just putting it I to action without the tools. Fuck it so I'll make my own.
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Don't get Brett started on turbo selection, last weekend he was all over the map lol.
Went from twins to singles to blower to n/a to bbc tunnel ram to a tripple stack of Doritos. Think he forgot his add meds.
Mostly I just like to fuck with Chad when I can, as he has a weird fetish of sending me cat pictures.
For the money I think I would try the twin CDM 57 trims. On good fuel they should be good for ~800hp.
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Still up in the air on turbos. Will probably wait until after the holidays b4 i buy one anyways.
Little more progress.
Got the garage pretty much clean and organized, then I got most all the trunions pushed out of the rockers with my bench vice and some sockets. Got 1 more to do and then they go into the the purple power driveway cleaner for a quick soak. Then it's assembly time for them.
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Mostly I just like to fuck with Chad when I can, but he returned the favour with radius arms.
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Well trunions are done. Good thing I have a NICE pair of snap ring pliers, man those fucking summit snap rings are no joke. I can tell you right now that those mother fuckers won't be breaking like the comp cam ones do. And they were about $36 less. Pretty easy to put together. Longest part of the whole process was cleaning the rockers once I stripped them down.
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Now after I was done with them I gave them a good oil bath and slapped them in a ziplock for tomorrow. Gonna clean the pushrods and bolts and hopefully get all of the top end put together and get the valve covers on.
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Well all valvetrain parts are cleaned and lubed up and ready to go in. Only got about 20 min of garage time in this morning so the only thing I was able to get done was get the pushrods, bolts and pedestal rails cleaned and ready to drop in
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So I skipped taking a few pictures but, i got all the rockers and pushrods in, Valve covers painted and new gaskets in/on and bolted down, timing chain cover painted and lightly tightened down (still need to drive the balancer on b4 i crank it all the way down), Cleaned up the steam port caps and crossover and got those bolted down and last but not least I set the intake on to take a look at what it will look like when it's almost done.
Pic
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Getting close now. Just need to put a freeze plug in intake manifold to plug the big egr hole in the side, and drill out the purge hole and rtv in my iat sensor, make a couple of fuel rail spacers and drop in my big injectors, bolt on my oil pan and rear main seal/cover oblong the holes in my flexplate for my converter to bolt to and the motor will be ready to drop in. Then it's trim and plate my shock towers and start fab on turbo shit.
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Did someone say turbo? :evil:
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you got a pair of turbos coming so we can see some sexy turbo pics right?
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Not yet. I asked Santa for a pair of turbos.
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I like what i see!
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The comp ones dont have a problem with the snap rings anymore.. lol.... they finally changed to a US manufacturer for the snap rings! I know runsfromdacops lost a few snap rings and I've seen my share. But about a year ago they changed and work great now. but those summit snap rings look beeeeeefffyyyy.
Looks like the build is going along quick! I just picked up a ton of parts and a back half for my nova so I'm full tilt trying to get it done for summer.
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Right on Ross. Thanks again for all your help via text. You have saved me a lot of hours of researching.
Well after talking with Santa last night, Santa told me to order up a turbo for christmas, and maybe I'll get one for a birthday present too....lol (Jan 12th)
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What turbo you going with?
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Twin 57trims.
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motor looks great. nice
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should get 53 mpg! nice
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Twin 57trims.
I think they might be to small
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Yep. Not trying to break any power records. They fit great for what I want. They are to small in the same way a rhb5 is to small for a d16. Basic I want about 500-550whp. The 2 of them should support about 800 hp so that fits my needs great. Pretty much off idle boost to about 5k to 5500. With a stock truck cam and my stock truck intake they should do great and make a good amount of tq.
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What's your plans for exaust mani's? Turbo placement?
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Truck manifolds, not sure on placement yet.
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I hate truck mani's with twins. Haven't seen a nice looking setup yet. Single can be made nice.
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Well with the way I'm thinking I might run them you won't even be able to see the exhaust manifolds. And I'm gonna probably wrap them anyways.
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if the turbos end up being to small he is gonna sell me all the shit for cheap, and ill just put a 4.8 in my nova (to be acquired at some later date ::))
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Can't wait to see what you have planned, 57 trims will be tits for you goals.
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I think they will work out ok. Just wondering how the internal wastegates will work. I'm gonna port the ever loving life out of them but like said earlier in the shoutbox/beach house I don't know if those wastegate ports will flow enough even after I port them.
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I bet theyll be fine i had an internal wastegate on my hx40 on my 355 sbc never had issues
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So today's task......lol
Installed rear main seal in rear cover. Went to go bolt it down and all of the bolts I have for it are to long.
put my harmonic balancer in the oven at 250° for 30 min to see if I could get it to expand a little and I could slide it on my crank. Well that didn't work either so I scrapped doing that today.
So I decided to clean up the throttle body. Didn't like how I couldn't get it all the way clean so I said screw it and painted it black.
Then with time running short I and everything required me to run out to get shit I decided to open up the intake a touch so I could get a iat sensor in the intake.
First sized it up. Needed to open it up just a little.
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Didn't have a 1/2 metal drill bit so I said fuck it and used a paddle bit.
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Stuffed some paper towels in the intake and went to town.
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Still was a touch tight so I ran the sensor on the wire wheel on the bench and it worked great.
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So now it's just time for some rtv and pop it in and be done with. Just one step closer now.
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Oh and, Santa ordered one of my turbos.
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UPDATES!!!...?
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Not much to update about. I've
unbolted the stock fuel rails and removed them off the intake.
I got the stock crank pulley installed.
I got some shorter rear main cover bolts.
I ordered 16 ngk spark plugs #3346 from my local napa for $2.49 each.
Got some expandable freeze plugs for the egr port on the intake but I'm taking them back because I don't like how they fit.
Other than that just doing the normal Holiday fucking scramble. I hate this time of year. I work less hours, make less money, and have a whole lot of no fucking time for anything.
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I work the same hours and make allot less money lol
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i work the same hours. couple more days off. make about the same (maybe a hair more actually). but as much as i try, still have less time.
anyway little progress, is still progress...more than can be said for me.. im just that many days closer to maybe having turbo nova.... ::)
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Well my new shorter bolts for the rear main seal cover are still to long. So it looks like I need 20mm lenght bolts. I was able to install the new 1 3/8" freeze plug in my intake. Just gooped it up with some grey rtv and pushed that fucker in. Also while I had the rtv handy I put my iat in. And while looking at this pic, I need to pull my steam vent tube and paint it. It looks like shit. Oh and I bought a oil cap.
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the bolts are to short? really? they are really long factory, like 1-1/4''. looking good man. great spot for the IAT, I've never seen anyone do that before.
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My bolts are to long. So I got shorter bolts and they are still to long. So now I need to get even shorter bolts. Thanks I saw someone else put it there online so I figured that's as good of a spot as any. Shouldn't get heat soaked or anything there and I can keep the wiring all nice and tight with the rest of the throttle body wiring.
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This is RHMT, grab a hack saw or a zip disc and cut the bolts down...
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This is RHMT, grab a hack saw or a zip disc and cut the bolts down...
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Turbo pulled apart for inspection. Only 2 stripped bolt holes....lol quick work with a tap fixed that.
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Throttle cable bracket showed up. I tell you what these mother fuckers are hard to find
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Nothing new to report other than my arp flex plate bolts showed up. Jegs had them on sale for $23 shipped.
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I saw this a while ago and couldn't remember where I saw it. So since I re found it I'm gonna post it in here so I don't loose it. It shows how this company has you mod the stock steering column. Then how to install there front clip. http://martzchassis.net/install-instructions/1962-67-nova-front-installation/ (http://martzchassis.net/install-instructions/1962-67-nova-front-installation/)
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cool. so this is what you where telling me about the supporting of the steering column.
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Yeah
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It's got a friend
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schweet
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run yet?
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run yet?
yea, on hopes and dreams
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Finally cleaning up the garage today. Not a whole lot of cleaning to do. Just more organizing more than anything. And then I'm gonna try and cut the shock towers today or get it ready to cut and cut them on Monday.
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I like how that one is cut on steves nova site, with the stock piece welded back in with a step.
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I like how that one is cut on steves nova site, with the stock piece welded back in with a step.
But there isn't really any more room at the bottom. Maybe 2" more? I want as much room as I can get. Going for 4"+
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You would need to improve on the idea, go lower, deeper.
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Yeah i will see once I get it cut open.
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So I got my garage all cleaned up and pulled the outer spring covers off. I pulled a few measurements but it's hard to tell because you can't see behind the spring to see what the tape measure says. So I just taped off the front for a reverence line. Gonna cut it on sunday or monday.
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Once I have it cut I'll be able to see how much more I need to cut. Then I will be able to just transfer it all to the other side and do the same.
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Ok so surgery had happened on 1 side. I opened it up a little to much at the top and I don't really like the way it's going to look once some sheet metal is welded in. So I'm going to tack weld a piece back in and re cut it, and then make a template and transfer it to the other side. Once it's all done I'm going to pull the springs and make sure I have full travel without the upper a arms hitting anything. Once that's done I'll finish welding everything in and then paint the plates and spray some undercoating on the wheel side. Anyways..... onto the pics.
Safety gear
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Using a angle grinder with a cut off wheel on it. Going to use the air compressor with a small cut off on the drivers side because it's alot tighter on that side with the steering box and brake lines.
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That's it for now. Next phase is to tack weld the big chunk back in and then recut the top and then start tacking in some sheet metal.
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Well I got the little corner piece tacked in that I wanted in there. At this point I'm gonna grab some cardboard and start making a template to transfer to some sheet metal.
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Looking good AJ!!!!!
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Thanks brochacho
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Little late, but....
http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1761576-60k-2003-z06-ls6-shortblock-bad-piston-ring.html (http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1761576-60k-2003-z06-ls6-shortblock-bad-piston-ring.html)
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Well temp let is all done. Gonna take some hammering and some heat to get it where I want it once it's all cut. But I checked clearances and the upper a arm looks like it clears along with the spring. Onto the pics.
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What gauge sheet metal are you using? :noel:
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Think it's 14 gauge. Let's just put it this way, it took more effort to cut it than to cut my shock towers.
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Oh and this......... it's not really that close to the spring. It just looks like it is because of the angle. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20150113_162613_zpsl6brdxqf.jpg&hash=87dd419b6085652a768ee50dbc139465995dd799) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20150113_162613_zpsl6brdxqf.jpg.html)
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Ok so I've been doing a little more work on the shock towers. I am not a welder by any means, but my harbor freight mig welder does ok. But the harbor freight gas regulator is a piece of shit. It keeps sticking closed. I'll weld a inch and it's great and then all of a sudden it's like it runs out of gas. Try and start back of and it still welds like there is no gas. Give the regulator a smack and it welds great for a while and then it starts acting up again. So here is where I'm at.
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Just have to burn in a little piece at the top and then start on the other side.
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I like progress!!!!
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I like progress!!!!
Makes two of us.
Gonna try and bang out the rest of this side and most of the other side on monday.
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I heard it needs some fuel rail shims for the taller injectors...
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I heard it needs some fuel rail shims for the taller injectors...
yes sir it does.
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Ok so passenger side is all welded up. Looked like shit too. So I took all the measurements I could and converted everything over to the drivers side. Which turned out killer. Then I started grinding on the passenger side and I think k I'm gonna grind it down and make it look good. But before I shoot the wheel side with rubberized undercoating I'm going to weld the backside so I know it's good. Afterall I am grinding the engine bay side down.
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Pass side started to grind on the top
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Solid progress homie!! Keep pluggin away it!
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Thanks man. I have a whiteboard and I just keep wiping things off it. Once I get the motor in the car the rest should go pretty quick. Just need to get this welding and grinding done so I can paint it and drop it in.
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Got a little more progress done today. So I started grinding all my welds to make it pretty the other day. Today see how much more I would need to do to make the shock towers look worth a damn I decide to say screw it and went to town.
Got the spring and shock out of the way.
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Welded up the outside
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Cleaned it up and Taped it off and sprayed with permetex rubberized undercoating.
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So I didn't get a pic of the engine bay side but I went back over my ground off welds and welded some new better looking slug trails.
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Well, drivers side all done. Now it's time to clean the engine bay and give it a fresh coat of paint and drop the motor in.
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Well fuck me I got a lot done tonight.
1. Front main cover torqued down
2. Rear cover torqued down
3. Motor mount plates painted and installed
4. Engine bay cleaned up and painted
5. Steam vent tube and caps painted and reinstalled
6. Dipstick tube capped off
7. Oil pan bolted on
8. Pulled engine off engine stand to only run into problems
So that's where I stopped. My motor mounts won't fit on my motor mount plates because there is a weird bulge on the back so I'm gonna grab a new set of es poly motor mounts.
Then I went to bolt my flexplate on and was taking some measurements and it looks as if I have a early 99/00 long crank. So when I pulled my flexplate out of the back of the car and went to bolt it up it stuck out about 1 3/8" from the back of the block to the far side of the flexplate. And it should only be about 1" So after calling it a night and going in and taking a shower, I started reasearching. I just figured I had the wrong flex plate. Which I have a 01+ flexplate with a built in spacer. Now I've seen some pictures of where people remove them but I don't know how. So I think tomorrow I'll just take my bfh to it and see how it rolls.
Onto the pics.
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I'll trade you that one for the one without the spacer.
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I'll trade you that one for the one without the spacer.
I already knocked the spacer out of it. Now I just need to slide it onto the crank and tq it down.
So just a quick update. Spent all of about 10 min in the garage b4 my kid woke up and had to get back to daddy duties.
This is how it looked last night when I called it a night.
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went to the auto parts store today and just picked up a new set of motor mounts. Mine were pretty haggard anyways and god only knows how old. New ones don't have as large as a hump on the back so 1 washer to space it out and I should be golden. Hard to tell here but the old one had at least 1/4" hump in the middle. Couldn't sit flush up against my adapter plates.
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also soaked the plate with the spacer in a little wd40. Took 2 flexplate bolts and stuck it on cinder block and worked it with little taps from a rubber mallet.
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to tomorrow I'm gonna tighten all that shit down and bolt the th400 up and slide it in the nova. Unless I run I to more problems.
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Well its all buttoned up for the night. Got the motor mounts all shimmed out and seems like it's gonna work out good. Got the flexplate bolted down and it's gonna work. Also got the crank pulley torqued down. So tomorrow, this will find its new home in the nova.
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Sweet
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Well fuck me!!!! This fucking motor fought me the whole way. IT DID NOT WANT TO GO IN!!! But it's in.
First thing. I went to go install my trans on and I noticed I only had 1 alignment pin for the transmission. Not a big deal, but I had to stop and run to the hardware store and pick up a couple of different sized ones. 5/8" is just about right. Bfh and a block of wood and I drove her home.
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next was putting it in........uhhuhgggggg
So I had to drop the front crossmember, swaybar, steering linkage, passenger side valve cover, and I still had to use brute force to get it in. Once in I had to move the mounts on my motor mount plates back 3/4" (which moves the motor forward) I was able to get it in. But now my transmission is 3/4" forward of where it was. So now I don't know if my driveline is gonna work out. FUCK!! And to top that off I now have to fab up a new crossmember for my trans. There is like one 1/4" of room between the rear of my passenger side head and the fire wall. So there is no moving it back more....lol oh well at least it's in.
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Holy fuck. Looks bitchen man. I need to make my way up there one of these days and check it out
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fuck yeah!
wow, you got some room on the right and left of the motor forsure.
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Just went out into the garage and the back of the motor is falling down...lol peaked under the car and since my trans mount is just resting on the flange and it's fucking bending it because it's on the very edge.
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Well today I crawled under the car and took a look at the trans. I jacked the tranny up to where it needed to be it was a fat inch that it needed to be lifted. So i crawled under the car and pulled the crossmember and started drilling and chopping. And then i used a couple of spacers I had and it put the crossmember back in. It's a little better but at this point I'm just gonna run it where it's at. That's why there's u joints....lol Anysways now it's time to start slapping water pump and all that shit on. But it's gonna be at a stand still for a few weeks as i have family coming into town.
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was hoping to see a dressed up motor. but looking at even the pics of it bare are cool. :noel:
you hold some turbos up yet? got a plan?
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Not really. Gonna probably try and set the intake on it tomorrow. And maybe set the coil packs on there too. Pretty sure the exhaust is gonna run out of the inner fenders And dive behind the wheels. I'm more concerned about exhaust manifolds. Don't know if I flip the stockers if they will even work. :-\
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Yes yes yes!!!!! You were holding out on me!!!!
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have then pointed down low, not up high.... swap sides, dont flip them.
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Vs racing makes a pair of china front facing for $190. A bunch of the sloppy guys have a ton of miles on them with out cracking.
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I like that idea, but I have to get some measurments from them. I really don't think they will fit to be honest. Clearance between the head and the shock towers is very close.
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Just got a email back from vsracing.net They are already out of stock and they stick out 5.6" which I think is about 2" to far....lol
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So I have about 2.5ish from the exhaust port to the shock tower. Defiantly going to have to go up with them or build a couple of logs
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Oh that is tight
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wow. shit. I don't know why I was thinking down facing would have worked. lol.
ok flip them. then cut the flanges off to aim them lower. I'll look for some pics of what I'm thinking...
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I'm thinking a f body drivers side manifold might fit flipped on the pass side. Then I will just have to come up with something on the drivers side. Need to take my chop saw and angle grinder to my exhaust manifolds and see what I can come up with.
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I'm thinking a f body drivers side manifold might fit flipped on the pass side. Then I will just have to come up with something on the drivers side. Need to take my chop saw and angle grinder to my exhaust manifolds and see what I can come up with.
I have a set of fbody manifolds if you want to try.
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I'm thinking a f body drivers side manifold might fit flipped on the pass side. Then I will just have to come up with something on the drivers side. Need to take my chop saw and angle grinder to my exhaust manifolds and see what I can come up with.
I have a set of fbody manifolds if you want to try.
I just need to see if they will fit if i flip them. I'll text you ross. You gonna be around on saturday evening? I'm gonna be on that side of the water picking up my father in law from the airport. I'll text you
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I have seen c5 vette ones fit.
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I'll have to look those up.
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i also have c5 vet
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Well shit, what else do you have for exhaust manifolds?
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like the passenger side.
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what i was talking about earlier.
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2010 camaro (flipped)
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http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/833458-ls-exhaust-manifolds.html (http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/833458-ls-exhaust-manifolds.html)
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Looks good. Waiting for ross to text me back. Said he has a set of c5 and f body manis. I have a set of truck manis but haven't had a chance to cut and chop them to see if they will even be close.
I did get a guy that responded over on ls1 tech about how he has these 2 turbos that I have on a 5.3 and they are fully spooled at 2400. So on my 6.0 it should be pretty much off idle. Said the internal gates wouldn't hold anything under 11 psi. So sounds like I defiantly need to port mine. And if I'm stuck with running 15 psi .....well so be it.
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The truck manifold won't fit under a Noav'a hood? I'd rock that over anything besides a FAST IM.
I'm seeing some rather new china headers going nuts on facebook. Apparently they aren't half bad, especially for the price. I'll probably get a set since they'll be easier than longtube headers - my f-body needs special header design to clear the damned steering box.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-97-14-CHEVY-SMALL-BLOCK-V8-LS1-LS2-LS3-LS6-LSX-TURBO-MANIFOLD-EXHAUST-HEADER-/400753246597?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item5d4ec14185&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-97-14-CHEVY-SMALL-BLOCK-V8-LS1-LS2-LS3-LS6-LSX-TURBO-MANIFOLD-EXHAUST-HEADER-/400753246597?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item5d4ec14185&vxp=mtr)
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Truck intake mani fits with ease. The exhaust mani is unknown for now. But I can tell you it won't fit without lots of altering. All look up some ebay specials and see what I can find.
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I'm trying to find the c5 ones, I know they are here. but I do have the 98 gaymaro ones and 06 6.0
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Ok cool, thanks man. The gamaro drivers side might work. I belive the c5 ones will work. I know c6 ones will work.
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I soooo want to boost my yukon but the 4l80 swap is going to be a PAIN!
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its easy, i've done a few.
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Well it looks like the truck manifolds might fit. Gonna have to do a bunch of trimming on the exhaust manifolds but looks good. Drivers side fits as is, Passenger side don't fit worth a shit. I will have to cut it up just to see if it will fit. Might take a whack at it on Monday. Would still like to see if I could find a set of C6/ls3 vett manifolds or some fbody on one side and possible something else on the other.
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Kinda like this (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy380%2Fduncanmclaren%2FIMG_0111_zps964a425c.jpg&hash=c28938d2d22531de697ce7b7c09ee56484ed4bfe) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/duncanmclaren/media/IMG_0111_zps964a425c.jpg.html)
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Well ofter doing all my reasearch and trying to test fit the ls1 manifolds from ross I think I'm just gonna end up cutting up the truck ones and making them work. If they don't work out I'll pick up a set of C6 ones and give those a try. But I'm gonna do something like this.
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but I'll put a short radius 90° on with a t3 flange
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Here's where I'm at now...
Drivers side cut
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Pass side cut
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And bolted on....
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And now I need to order up some pipes from Adam at Columbia River and then some t3 flanges so I can start placing the turbos.
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Those look like they will fit perfect. Some pipe grafted in and some t3 flanges and the hotside will be good to go!
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Those look like they will fit perfect. Some pipe grafted in and some t3 flanges and the hotside will be good to go!
That's the plan
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those look like they will work great.
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Nice
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Went to lowes today to buy some black iron pipe to fit up on the exhaust manifolds and they don't carry anything over 1" So then I went over to the nuts and bolts and they don't carry any 8x1.25 metric bolts longer than 2". That store fucking fails on so many levels. So I guess I'll check home depot or just order some shit online.
And I also ordered some t3 flanges last night from the same guy that I always order from. I got 2, 1/2" ss t3 flanges for $27 shipped and I get them the next day.
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dude its all about Ace hardware. they always hook me up. Lowes is always just fail, not even sure why I even try anymore.
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dude its all about Ace hardware. they always hook me up. Lowes is always just fail, not even sure why I even try anymore.
Yeah ace is good for bolts and shit like that but y here prices are not jew enough for me.
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i just buy it. either from ace or honda. i dont care anymore if im in need of it. unless its just plain expensive, im not looking elsewhere.
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Well I picked up a couple of bolts to just hold the pump on and I cut up the power steering/alt bracket. This is where I'm at now
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So it's gonna be a tight fit....lol
thinking about trying to get a fbody alt mount and mounting the alt down low and out of the way. Or say fuck it and build a exhaust pipe upper and lower radiator hose....lol kinda running out of money quick. Gonna find myself stalling real soon. Have about $200 left to spend and I don't even have a intercooler, charge pipes, charge pipe couplers, The list goes on....lol
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if you buy an Fbody alt mount your going to need a pulley and water pump also...
so make that shit work. lol.
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Well fuck that, I'm gonna make this work then....lol
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i just thought of an awesome solution to your problem of finding your pipe material.... squarefold! just get some 1/8" bar. cut it up in lengths, weld to manifold O0 :mexi: :Jew:
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i just thought of an awesome solution to your problem of finding your pipe material.... squarefold! just get some 1/8" bar. cut it up in lengths, weld to manifold O0 :mexi: :Jew:
Squarefold, would be so gangster RHMT classic in a classic. :noel:
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Think I would go with a set of c6 manifolds before I did a squarefold. Not bagging on the squarefold or anything.
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I am too good for a squarefold.
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This build is too good for a squarefold.
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when I build a nova it will probably be right on par for a squarefold. :Jew:
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Some fence post outta graft up nice to those manifolds... O0
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I got some 2" galvanized water pipe. I'm gonna weld it up and try and kill myself with poison gas.
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I got some 2" galvanized water pipe. I'm gonna weld it up and try and kill myself with poison gas.
Satin coat buffs off with a flapper disc pretty easy.
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Just gonna hit it with the grinder and a sanding disk, and then ware my respirator while I mig it up.
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Just gonna hit it with the grinder and a sanding disk, and then ware my respirator while I mig it up.
Leave a door open too and you will be good.
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Ordered up a throttle body coupler and t bolt clamp last night. Put in a jew offer on a intercooler. I guess I'll see if my sweet talking the seller works. Once I get those, I'll set up the intercooler and see what I have to do about my radiator. Have a feeling it's not gonna work, but worst comes to worse, I'll order up a rad from speedway.
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Went by my local pacific/central welding store today. Checking o see if they had any drop/remanence Of 2" sch40. Had about a 2' piece laying in the corner. Needless to say I walked out with it for a whopping $3.55 so I'm gonna take this galvanized bullshit back to home depot and get my $20 back. Also order up my intercooler today. Dude didn't take my jew offer, but counter offered and still sold it to me for $30 less then anyone else on ebay.
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ok, So.........
So this is the intercooler I ordered. Will be here next week. Got it on ebay. It was $175 buy now or offer. So I offered $130 and he counter offered $155 shipped. So I snagged it.
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft571%2Furbanproductioninc%2FParts%2Fic-007_zps52ef2219.jpg&hash=3595e7a0eb082bd272e1f61b3bd77e37bb75a822) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/urbanproductioninc/media/Parts/ic-007_zps52ef2219.jpg.html)
Ordered a 1.5 to 1.75 90* coupler to come off my Chevy lower rad hose,
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2F00%2Fs%2FNzAwWDcwMA%3D%3D%2Fz%2FKn0AAOSwmUdUWIsJ%2F%24_12.JPG&hash=55d3454fb744299729067f2cb439df65e89bc72d)
Then I ordered 2 of these 1.5 90* couplers to snake the rest of the lower hose to the thermostat housing.
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Picked this upper 2005 suburban radiator hose at my local auto parts store to test fit. If it looks like it will work im gonna take it back and order it on online for 1/2 the price of the local jew auto parts stores.
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Here is the throttle body coupler I ordered from Squeeze performance. I also ordered a 3.75" t bolt clamp. If you use the couplon code "sloppy" you get like 25% off. and free shipping on orders over $20. Got the coupler and clamp for like $21 shipped
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Hope all this shit shows up by Monday so I can figure out what else I need to order up for hoses.
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Holy shit. A ton of progress. Looks good AJ. I need to come to the meet this year.
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What are you doing to the meat now?
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Well my intercooler will be here tomorrow. I spent yesterday rotatilling my back yard. So I have to finish up the rest of it up.
So later on this week I should hopefully get some time to get the intercooler mounted up and then see what the fuck I'm gonna do with the radiator. Once the rad plumbing is done I can then get the exhaust manifolds finished and the turbos mounted and the charge pipes and exhaust done.
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So it looks like I'm gonna drop my radiator off at a shop local to me to have them move the top hose outlet on the rad from the pass side to the drivers side. It will make a whole bunch more room for me to run my charge pipes. Guy is only gonna charge about 20-30 to move it over and plug the old hole. Once I get that back I can then start mock up of my charge pipes and where I need the turbos and all the bullshit. Until then it's a hurry up and wait kinda thing.
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Looking good Holmes.
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both my hoses run on the pass side
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So I think on monday I'm gonna try to set my intercooler up and see where I'm at as far as fitment goes. And then I can start fucking with charge pipes.
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Don't know if your interested, but....
http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1773638-2-ls7-cam-shafts.html (http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1773638-2-ls7-cam-shafts.html)
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Not for this build. For the next one maybe.
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ls7 cam would make horrible power with his setup. everything about it is wrong.
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Well, I'm cutting out of work early today to drop my radiator off at a local shop to have him move the top hose outlet on the radiator from the drivers side over to the pass side. Here is how close it is right now. It only about 3" away. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20150305_181053_zpsjx2rwrnf.jpg&hash=7f99f0a6559e0b5ca53ea7f033a370f5f740b8a1) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20150305_181053_zpsjx2rwrnf.jpg.html)
Hope to have it back by Monday so I can start fitting up the intercooler, charge pipes and turbo placement. Then I can tac weld up my shit for the exhaust manifolds and really start buttoning it up.
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sweet. progress... :)
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Well fuck. Took it to the guy and he said it's gonna leak. Said it's falling apart inside and that it would cost $500 to remake it. Said fuck all that noise. So I'm going to probably pick up a radiator on ebay. Fuck!!!! More money I didn't want to spend. This is the one I'm looking at. It's for a early mustang.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201299496129&alt=web (http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201299496129&alt=web)
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Well I decided to not pull the trigger on the new radiator just yet. So I figured I would start mock up of the intercooler.
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Intercooler is pretty good sized
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looks like you need to do some more trimming. gonna be awesome. got a pic of it a little further back?
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I have to trim out for the silicone couplers, I'm going to pull the grill and the front bumper assembly tonight and get my Depth set then I'll order up my couplers. but before I do that I'm going to dig through my bucket that I have of extra couplers
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So here is the intercooler bolted in. I pushed it as far forward as I could before hitting the grill. I was able to gain about a extra 3/4" over what I thought I was going to.
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So in the picture you can see the bolts that hold the intercooler on are a little long. I got some that are even longer and I'm going to drill holes in the radiator flange and mount the radiator on the same bolts. That way I don't have to make any crazy brackets that hold the rad in place.
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Run yet?
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Run yet?
Lol goal is to make it move under its own power by next summer....lol as much as I would like this summer It might be a stretch.
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Well....
Intercooler Installed for final fit
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baller shims (washers stacked and then wrapped in electrical tape to hold them together)
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Extra long bolts to mount my radiator on
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radiator mounted
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Upper coolant radiator hose made
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20150317_153258_zps4q5zsufd.jpg&hash=b52a974de965c20c35e7c86ebb5ed4f44bb009b8) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20150317_153258_zps4q5zsufd.jpg.html)
now I just need to wait for the rest of my silicone couplers to show up and I can cut the rest of the radiator support out for my charge pipes.
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My charge pipe couplers showed up. I ordered the wrong fucking silicone 90° couplers that come off the turbo. Fuck!! Needed 2, 2"-2.5" 90° and I ordered 2"-2.25" 90° and other than that, all my employees are quitting at work. Have a feeling that my 2 hours a week that I have to work on the car are gone for a while.....lol fuck me!!
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And the dumb asses on ebay sent me 2" 90° couplers instead of 3". Well, I guess I can start mocking up my turbo manifolds. And sump my gas tank.
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DO WORK! ;DDD
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Trying to sell my plasma cutter to buy a tig. Been looking into the everlast tig welders. They have pretty good reviews online.
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get a thermal arc
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Miller plasma?
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Miller plasma?
Yeah.
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Well, I did this about 3 weeks ago and I got frustrated with how it's coming out so I haven't touched it in a while. So here it sits. Probably fuck around with it this weekend or early next week.
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Oh, I sold my plasma cutter. Got $700 for it. So I've been on the hunt for a ac/dc tig. Found one last weekend. Miller syncrowave 200, and 2 125cf bottles, and 10lbs of rod for $1200. But the dude never emailed me back and then when he did it was to tell me that it was sold. I hate it when people post on craigslist don't put a phone number up. Just a email.
So I'm still on the hunt for a tig.
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Looking tits homie.
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Looking tits homie.
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:noel:
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Nice.
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Slow progress, but progress none the less. Got both sides welded up. No I'm mocking up turbo placement for one of the turbos. Might try and get some more done on monday.
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Well besides heat wrapping it, I'm done with the passenger side manifold. Staying true to my hmt roots with whitey bends. Going from cast iron to stainless to mild and then back to stainless steel. All with a harbor freight mig.....
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Fuck yes knee grow!!!!!!
Love it!!!!!!!!
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you know i love it. is that some thick ass metal? im sure solid for a lifetime and a half.
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Yep, .120 wall
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Loving it!
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Fuck yes. O0
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Thanks guys. Gonna try and get a little more work done on it next week.
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Awesome man. Looking good!
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Twins......
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Getting there, keep at it.
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Getting there, keep at it.
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Thanks guys. Will probably be another month before I get a chance to touch it. May is my busiest month with work and life. Then I go on vacation in mid June to Dominican Republic for 8 days. So I hope to have it moving under its own power by August. Then maybe a mini tube and a different front clip come winter......idk
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DR in June? Seems odd, normally people go to escape winter not get more summer. LOL I was just there in March. Do Not Stay at VIK Arena Blanca.
Iberostar and Ocean blue would be my choices for Bavaro.
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Yes in june....lol its the only time of year i get to take vacation. Im ok with it because nobody else really goes then so i get to park my fat ass on the beach and have it all to myself. We are staying at melia caribe in punta cana.
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Go to coco bongo, well worth it.
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Well I scrapped the idea of a tig welder and ordered up a mustang II bare clip from lakeshore fabrication. I spoke with Kevin who owns lakeshore in Missouri, and he informed me that he builds all of the nova clips and mustang II crossmembers for speedway and they sell them as there own.
Long story short, it's $450 + shipping to get it. He's gonna call me tomorrow with a shipping quote.
Figured if I buy it bare I can find some a arms and spindals and everything as I go.
If I have the clip sitting in my garage I'm pretty much forcing myself to go with a m2 clip. It's gonna be so much easier to go with big brakes and do a whole pro touring setup with the m2 setup.
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mustang II bare clip?
No idea what this is ha, excuse my ignorance :mexi:
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Ok so my nova is a unibody. Like a honda. My front end/frame unbolts at the firewall with about 8 bolts. The stock chevy suspention really limits what you have for room, and the handling is sub par compared to most newer cars.
So what the hotrod people have been doing for years is take the mustang II crossmember and everything attached to it and put it in there cars. Makes for alot more room and can be made to handle really well.
So instead of just cutting out all my suspention like mor hot rods have, I bough a whole new front frame with a new mustang II crossmember already welded in. But it's bare so it doesn't come with any a arms or rack and pinion or anytime like that.
Looks like this
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This is how much room there is with a ls in my engine bay stock
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And this is with a mustang II front clip installed
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Don't look like much but it's like night and day in person.
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Well Kevin finally got around to calling me back. So total cost was $450+241.91 (shipping to west coast commercial address) comes to $691.91 and it looks like I should have the frame here early next week. Now it's time to start collecting parts.
Need,
1. Mustang/pinto steering rack
2. Tie rod ends
3. Upper and lower mustang II tubular a arms with dodge ball joints
4. Mustang II spindals
5. Conversion wheel bearings
6. Nova drum brake hubs (I already have)
7. C5 corvette brake calipers/brackets/rotors
8. D shaft and joints for steering linkage
9. Bearing for lower section of steering column to convert it to rack and pinion.
I'm sure there is more but that will get me started.
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Why do you need two sets of spindles?
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I'm a reatard. It was suppose to be nova hubs.
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Also, I think I have a big brake kit with oem parts on the low buck. Like under the cost of the normal brakes and you can go to any auto parts store and just snag them. More to come as time goes on but with my hours of seaching and my bit of back and forth with a few guys I'm pretty sure it's gonna be real fucking cool and cost under $300 for 13" brakes.
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i would love to see this happen. everyone is stuck on old school ass chevelle 11" brakes. there is way better shit out there.
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Should be pretty simple. Have more info here in a few months when I have all the parts in front of me. I'm a hands on kinda person.
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Well the front clip showed up today looking like this
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So I unstrapped it and pulled it off the pallet to get it in the back of my rig. Got it home and went to just hand tighten the support bars that come from the firewall down to the frame. There is 2 bolts on each frame rail. Looks like the plated that bolt them to the frame rail looks like they are drilled just a little off. No big deal. Looks like I will have to oblong the hole just a touch.
Here it is with 1 bolt holding them down
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I will say the welds are pretty damn good. Clean lines and good penitration on everything. Gonna start tearing into my stock front end for disassemble this weekend.
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good penitration into my front end.
:?:
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awesome... watching closely.
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Now if I could get my lame ass buddy to text me back with prices for m2 a arms and spindals
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Thanks for the break down of the front clip. I'm taking notes and watching closely!
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Well hold on. The brake tech part will get deep in a hurry. I talked to dustin on the phone this afternoon and on paper everything for the brakes sound about right, now when it comes down to bolting shit together....... well that may be a different story but I'll know more once I get to that point. Which I'm hoping will be in the next few months. I leaving on vacation in about a month so once I get back from that I hopefully won't be saving every penny I come across for something else and I can actually spend some on the car.
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hurry up! lol
i may have just a whole easier plan. see how cheap i can do it. :Jew:
edit: my plan was good. prices suck ass. calipers are hard to get i guess and brackets reflect that also. :'(
i was about to make a comment about using my ITR calipers.... but Pilot/Ridgelines are 5x120 ;)
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Ordered up my spindles today. I guess once they get here I'll pull my wheel and hub and see how my "theory" of brakes/wheel hubs work out.
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So the disassembly has begun. Now I'm at the point where I need to borrow my step dad's engine hoist and pull this back out and swap front ends.
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Updates :noel:
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Parts on order, waiting for them to arrive, leave on vacation next Friday for a week. Once I get back I'm gonna pull,shit apart and put shit together and hopefully have it driving in a year or so.
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Wheres the holiday?
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No holiday. Take vacation when I can.
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What's the difference?
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Lol, not everyone else has my vacation off. I'm going to fly to Dominican Republic. Going to sit on the beach and do nothing. Can't fucking wait.
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Lol.
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Well I painted the frame last week with POR 15. It's kinda funky, you paint it in with a brush and it dries smooth. It's hard as a rock and requires at least 2 coats. Weirton thing is after the first coat I let it dry about 30 min and go to put the second coat on. Goes on kinda tacky like the first coat is drying and then once it fully dries it has little bubbles here and there like I painted dirt into it. Not that I care all that much but looks kinda shitty compared to how it looked right after applying the second coat. Will say that it looks just like powederciating.
So today I pulled the spindles out and was gonna por15 them as well and low and behold they were already painted. Sweet!!!
Checked tracking on my a arms and caliper brackets and they arnt suppose to be here until Tuesday but they are probably gonna be here tomorrow.
So far the total is
Frame. 691.91
A arms. 245.99
Spindles. 100.00
Caliper brackets. 42.46
Bearings and seals. 35.00ish
A arm bolts. 16.17
Paint. 35.00ish
So now I'm at around $1166 into it. Still need brakes, rack and pinion, tie rod ends, brake lines, motor mounds, steering shaft and steering joints. And probably extended wheel studs.
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Less holidays more novas!!!
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Truth
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Sorry to bump a old thread but Did anything ever become of this project?
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Did anything ever become of this project?
Nope. It's over 120° in my garage right now. Ain't nothing happening in that sweat box until the weather cools down.
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Ok, so real update....
I haven't touched the car in weeks. I was on vacation and since I've been back I don't think the Temps have dropped below 90° during the day and it's been over 120° in the garage every day.
I need to pick up some springs and shocks for the mustang front end that way when I finally get around to swapping I can actually set it down on the ground. So if the Temps cool off I might actually get some work done out in the garage next weekend.
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that's an update ???
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that's an update ???
Yes. Now help me figure out what the stock spring rate is on my nova. Trying to figure out spring rate to order for my m2 front end.
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275's I think you need... but there was a chart somewhere... speedway maybe.
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Being how different the geometry is I don't think stock spring rate will mean much to you unless your a geometry master.
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Ordered up a set of springs and shocks. Went with 325# springs. Figure it will lower it a little and eventually I'm gonna go to coilovers do these will probably work for now. I hope.
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Sounds squishy.
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Just the way I like it..... :?:
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Springs, shocks and hardware showed up. Need to get in the garage and start assembly!!!!
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Front on mine is still spring shock but adjustable shocks.
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I'll roll with this for a while. Eventually I'll go to a coil over with a dual adjustable shock.
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Damn it hurry up already
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engine out yet? stock clip off? its damn near cold here should be getting some work done.
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engine out yet? stock clip off? its damn near cold here should be getting some work done.
I was looking at the calendar last night trying to figure out when I was going to be able to get out there and work on it, I've got something booked for the next 8 weekends in a row. so I'm sure sometime in September I'll be able to work on it. until then I'm going to try and assemble the front clip while it's sitting on the ground and not in the car
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isn't that just going to make it heavy and akword to put on the car?
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I was gonna do a dry fit on everything b4 i bolt it onto the car. That way if I have to mod anything I can do it while it's off the car and I can take it to a friend's to have anything machined and whatnot. If I need to. So I went to go bolt the lower control arms on just to see how they fit and they don't fit....lol so I'll get pics and post up what I'm talking about. Need to take about 1/4" off of the lower a arm support sleeve so the a arm will slide on. I'll take pics of what I'm talking about later.
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So here is what I got. The frame portion measures 7 5/16"
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And the arms with the washers measure 7 1/8"
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so should I just say screw it and cut 3/16" off the spacer that's welded to the frame so the a arm fits in? Because I'm pretty sure that's what's gonna happen....lol
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Hell, that's probably what I'd do.
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Hell, that's probably what I'd do.
Good, because that's what I did. They fit good now. Might hit them a little more with the sanding wheel to just make it a little easier to put the washers in.
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Ordered up a steering rack today. Comes with tie rod ends and bushings and bolts to mount it up. Not to bad for like $74 shipped....... :D http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=321608795346&alt=web (http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=321608795346&alt=web)
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Little work done today. Didn't like the ricer yellow on the shocks so it got the low gloss black treatment. Finished dry fitting everything up and after I trimmed the lower a arm sleeve/spacer off the frame the lower a arms fit great.
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So my ebay mustang II rack and pinion showed up today. Came with mounting bolts, mount busings and tie rod ends. All for $73 shipped. Not a bad deal. I didn't care for the mexichrome pain it had so I gave it a good coat of the old low gloss black. Turned out pretty good.
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It will be interesting to see what your caster ends up as. Moving the lower arm back lowers it, and from what I've seen most people add caster. Adding it back via the top can cause rubbing, but I'd presume you'll be running fairly narrow tires in front.
I'd have bitched up a storm & asked for new lower arms or a hefty refund.
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It will be interesting to see what your caster ends up as. Moving the lower arm back lowers it, and from what I've seen most people add caster. Adding it back via the top can cause rubbing, but I'd presume you'll be running fairly narrow tires in front.
I'd have bitched up a storm & asked for new lower arms or a hefty refund.
It didn't move the centerline back at all with me cutting the spacer.
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The whole clip though, moves the entire centerline back. It centers it in the wheel well opening so you can fit a tire larger then 24" without rubbing on the front of the fender. The chevy II suspention sucks dick. It's nothing like your firebird. It's more like a 1st gen mustang.
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So I got about a hour of work done in the garage today.
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So I didn't take a picture of it but the trans is on the engine stand and I pulled the pan because I'm gonna tear it down and do the dual feed mod that jake from jakes performance did a write up about.
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Well, the removal has begun
Fenders off, and steering box and steering column shaft pulled.
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So now the next step is to clean the firewall up and give it some paint love. And then bolt the frame on, and go through the transmission and put it back together then bolt the engine to trans and slide it in and weld up some frame motor mounts. Pull the motor back out and and then do final assembly.
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so awesome.
is it as easy as it looks? your car use to be turquoise?
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Yes and yes. Pull pass side motor mount off frame, undo 2 bolts inside car that hold column to dash, pull steering wheel, unbolt the 3 bolts that hold the steering box to frame, Unbolt the pitman arm from the center link, undo brake lines and fuel line, then unbolt the 14 bolts that hold the frame to the car. Roll it away.
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doesnt the steering box come apart from the column shaft?
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It might, but from what I've read the 66 and earlier dont. But the 67 does.
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The whole clip though, moves the entire centerline back. It centers it in the wheel well opening so you can fit a tire larger then 24" without rubbing on the front of the fender. The chevy II suspention sucks dick. It's nothing like your firebird. It's more like a 1st gen mustang.
I always thought x & f-bodies were very similar, but I'm starting to see they really aren't. At least it was an easy fix, I'm just surprised they didn't make that bring that rear point forward to allow more caster adjustment.
Now I just have to get off my ass & do work too.
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The x body and f body are night and day. Only thing the same is transmissions, rear ends, and motors. And even then the 62-67 x body never got a big block from the factory like the first gen f body's did.
Now that I think about it the 68 and newer novas were alot like the 67+ f bodys.
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Well, I cleaned up the firewall and got all the old seam sealer off. Then I scraped about 5 lbs worth of dirt off of the firewall.
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So I put the 3" wire wheel in the drill and went to town.
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Found out that it looks like someone ran over a small stump and dented the firewall right at the strongest part. It put a couple of ripples on the firewall. But not to big of a deal though because it's hidden once I put some inner fender panels on.
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So then I laid down a new beat of seam sealer and then taped off the firewall where I didn't want the undercoating and gave a good shot of undercoating. Pulled the tape and then shot right over the top of it and the rest of the firewall with some more low gloss black.
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Still kinda wet in thoes photos so here is a shot of it all dried up.
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Nice!
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Gonna try to get the frame bolted up today and hopefully get some motor mounts welded up.
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Ok, so this is where frustration sets in and I want to smash shit......
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So my oil pan smacks hard into my rack and pinion. Can't even bolt it up it hits so hard. If I lift the front up to where it won't hit my engine is sitting at like 5 or 6°
So I know it's a truck pan and I need a f body pan but still should he kinda close to the same up front. Gonna walk away for a day or so b4 I reattack it.
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shitty. i could have sworn that i read of people using a truck pan with limited ground clearance. and that the F-body pan was preferred.
looks like 2 3/8 for truck pan at the front and 1 3/8 for F-body.
the cleaned/painted fire wall and clip bolted up look damn sexy together tho.
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yeah it looks real nice in person too. before I go any further and make motor mounts. I need to get the correct oil pan and try and get everything lined up straight and make sure my steering rack bolts up. then I can make my motor mounts and permanently put this thing in.
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Well the frame mounts are almost done. Just need to add the support to the backside of the mount. Used some 1/8"×3" plate, 5/8" sch40 tubing, angle grinder and the hf mig. Turned out ok but I ran out of shielding gas.
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so the engine is solid mounted to the frame? or are you using the gen1 mounts on the setback plates? or gen3 mounts in original position?...guess all would work fine really.
looks fuckin awesome, getting me excited. :-* its coming together nicely AJ, keep up the good work!
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Gen 1 mounts with the adapter plates. That way if I ever go small or big block I'm set.
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Well the frame mounts are all done. Pulled the motor and trans out today and finished up the backside of the mounts. Took the th400 off and bolted up the empty 4l80 case that Ross let me borrow. Put everything back in and now I need to mark where in the trans tunnel I need to clearance to make the 4l80 fit.
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Post pics of his nova when you drop his case off bitch
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It's like the trans tunnel of the nova knew that there would be a 4l80 in there one day and she spread her tunnel just enough for it to slide in with a little foreplay from the bfh.
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No pictures of my shit, thats not how this works O0
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Fucker.
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Got my springs installed. I decided to install them without cutting them. (Everything I've read says you need to cut some of them off b4 you install them. Turns out they were correct....haha
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So frome what I've gathered. I need to cut these to make them about 12" tall. Right now they ar 13 5/8" tall. It's gonna be a few weeks b4 i get a chance to pull them back out and cut them. But in the mean time I'm gonna let them sit in the car with some weight on them and hope thwy settle a little.
I'm a little worried that they are gonna be a little stiff once they are cut. They are 325lb springs which means when I cut them the rate is going to go up. Haven't sat down and figured it out yet but might have to order some different ones.
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probably too early to tell with the spring all jacked up in there. but is there sufficient clearance to run the 5/8 narrower A-arms?
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I don't know yet, but man it would be real close.
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Damn this is looking great!
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I forgot to post this, I did this a while back but I figure I'll post it now.
It didn't care for the aftermarket th400 crossmember that I had bought for the Nova. It hung real low and sagged some. Made routing the exhaust a real pain. So i reused the factory powerglide crossmember and just welded some new mounting points to the subframe conectors. Now the crossmember fits nice and tight up against the floorpan. So I'll be able to run exhaust without it being two inches from the ground. Still need to wire wheel up my welds and give everything a good shot of undercoating. Think I'm gonna grind the welds on the subframe conectors off and re weld them when time permits. Had to fluxcore them because I ran out of gas when I went to weld them up.
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you need my custom 1.5qt oil pan.
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you need my custom 1.5qt oil pan.
Haha. Don't I have to run a extra tank and a scavenge pump and all kinds of other shit?
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Good morning...... nothing new to report.
If time allows tomorrow I'm gonna pull the motor and trans out and attempt to pull trans apart and fuck shit up.
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Got a little work done today. My mustang II springs were way to tall (13.75") so I cut 1 coil off (now 11.75"). Turned out great. Might end up needing different springs anyways but these will work for now. Should have probably only cut 3/4 of a coil instead of the whole thing but oh well. Figure once I load the rest of the parts on the front of the car it should be real close to having my lower control arms right at 0° so that's close enough for me. Also yarded the motor and trans back out to finish up all the mods on the th400. Next time the motor and trans go's in its staying in. :-)
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Well I've started cutting and separating the engine wiring harness and I got a deal on a dirty ass oilpan....lol got a fbody pan, pickup, dipstick tube, and dipstick for $150+paypal fees+shipping. All in all it came out to about $181 to my door. Should be here sometime this week. So now I need to open the transmission up and see if I just need gaskets or hard parts too while I'm doing the jakes transmission dual feed mod.
Worthless post without picks so here you go
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Few more things. Picked up a complete ls1 intake for dirt cheap. Gonna put it up for sale as soon as I get it and at least double my money on it.
So on that note I started to pull the transmission apart for the dual feed mod. Took it apart to see if I needed and hard parts. Everything looks mint inside. So I pulled 1 of the 2 seals. So tomorrow I'm going pick up the plug and a set screw. I also ordered a full gasket/seal set.
So now I just need to hurry up and wait for it so I can put it all back together.
Half way apart,
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Notice I had a little internal leak because this trans has been apart b4....lol unless gm installed it this way but I don't think so. O ring was kinda fucked...haha
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My transtec gasket set showed up today. Was going to slam out some work on the transmission today, but I ended up doing a brake job on the front end of a crv for a little extra cash. Gonna hit the trans on monday. Might do some valve body mods tomorrow when I get off work if I have time. If not then I'll do all of it on monday.
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The sloppy guys posted a vid about a week or 2 ago showing how to install a transgo kit
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The sloppy guys posted a vid about a week or 2 ago showing how to install a transgo kit
That was for a 4l80, not a th400. Totally different.
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Almost have the th400 all finished up. Got my lip seal off and the 2nd ring off so the dual feed mod is almost complete. Having a great time trying to get the input shaft and clutches all lined up. Once that's Done I can slam my pump on and mod up my valve body.
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that seal that was poped up/out wont cause any problems, its the the low band.. you could take the band out and the trans will be fine
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Well, finally got the input shaft stabbed all the way in. Note to self, transmission input shaft is easier to install when the transmission is in the park position and you spin the input shaft in a counterclockwise motion while rocking the whole shaft around and pushing down slightly. Tomorrow's plan is to install the new shift lever seal and then check the pump out and install that if it's good. Hope to have the valve body mods done and the trans completely back together by monday.
On another note, I sold the ls1 intake I picked up last week. I recipient ed it on tueaday. Picked up the intake, fuel rails, and cable throttle body for $128 shipped. Just sold it today for $335 shipped. After paypal fees and shipping cost, I made $182 on it. Which pays for my f body oilpan. It cost me $181. So now I have $1 left over to go buy a .99 cheese burger. :-)
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Well played!
On a semi related topic my 4l60 is completely fuck.... thinking of swapping to a 4l80e. Just need more info
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Well played!
On a semi related topic my 4l60 is completely fuck.... thinking of swapping to a 4l80e. Just need more info
How much power are you planning to make? If not much I think rebuilding and doing the correct upgrades to the 4L60E will be a lot cheaper unless you get a smoking deal on a 4L80E.
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4l80's around my neck of the woods go for around 200-400 used. And they are pretty bulletproof in stock form. Just slap a tune at it and it will pretty much handle a fuck ton of power. 4l60 is just a door stop. Stock form they are week. And if you put some miles on them and have them in something heavy like a suv, they are even less likely to live.
On a side note, I think I'm gonna start flipping car parts. Just picked up another f body oil pan complete for stupid cheap. Gonna turn right around and flip it and make some cash.
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4l60 lasted a lot longer than m9st. 170k, TONS of towing and 2 trips from NJ to Nc.
4l80 are going from 200-1000, I can't get a straight answer. 4l80 came out in 92- today. There seems to have been a major update around 06, so does that mean I basiclly can run any say 92-05?
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4l60 lasted a lot longer than m9st. 170k, TONS of towing and 2 trips from NJ to Nc.
4l80 are going from 200-1000, I can't get a straight answer. 4l80 came out in 92- today. There seems to have been a major update around 06, so does that mean I basiclly can run any say 92-05?
You are probably going to have to get something close to the year of the vehicle you want to put it in as there were electrical differences between them over the years. You also need to look at length, etc. If your tahoe is 4wd, transfer case compatibility, drive shaft lengths, etc.
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4l60 lasted a lot longer than m9st. 170k, TONS of towing and 2 trips from NJ to Nc.
4l80 are going from 200-1000, I can't get a straight answer. 4l80 came out in 92- today. There seems to have been a major update around 06, so does that mean I basiclly can run any say 92-05?
You are probably going to have to get something close to the year of the vehicle you want to put it in as there were electrical differences between them over the years. You also need to look at length, etc. If your tahoe is 4wd, transfer case compatibility, drive shaft lengths, etc.
Good points, still have some more research to do.
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Well, I got most of the th400 back together. Nice and clean inside. Dual feed mod is done. Now it's time to mod up the valve body and slap that shit back together.
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Here you can see I installed the dorman 555-003 7/16 cup plug.
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Here I'm pointing to the spot that needs to be tapped with a 5/16 set screw. You can also see the cup/piston on the left. That is a shattered e/c clip inside there. I don't know how it never fell apart but it didnt. So it looks like I'll be hitting up the hardware store for one. After that I just need to do 2 more little tricks to the valve body and separator plate and slap it back together for good. It's amazing that all these mods for this th400 are pretty much free and it should be able to hold 700+ whp. Pretty pumped, so close to being done.
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Well I went to pull the broken E clip out of the valve body, and I had to use a pair of channel locks to work the piston up. got it off and the piston out and the piston shaft is all galled up. So I spoke with @jakes performance about driving the old piston pin out and replacing it or if I would have to get a whole new valve body. He said since im plugging the feed to it and removing the spring for it that I should drive the old pin out and use a 1/4" bolt and just bolt it in place to keep it from moving and I will be 100% good to go. Man I love free mods and great advice!
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Th400 is all back together and ready to rock and roll. Hopefully I did everything right. Now i just need to get a filter for it and slap the pan on. Then bolt it to the lq4, put it in the car to make sure the fbody pan clears everything and start mocking up turbo placement and plumbing
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Ok, so I bolted the fbody pan up and dropped everything in to check clearances. All looks good so back out it came so I could pull the pan and tap the oil returns for the turbos. Here's where I'm at now.
All in and fitment looks good.
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Empty once again but all the suspention up front is done.
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About 3/16" of clearance between my set screw on the u joint and the frame mount
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About 1/4" on the backside
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Here is the pass side pan where I'm gonna tap it with a 1/2" npt and screw it down.
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Here is the drivers side, I'm gonna put it right between the webbing.
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And all done
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sex
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Thanks
So next week's plans are,
1. Clean and paint crossmember
2. Install proportioning valve and run brake lines
3. Cut factory truck windage tray
4. Installed pan, pickup, and tray
5. Installed motor and trans for hopefully the last time
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Well, I got the frame mounts cleaned and painted, and I figured since I had the paint out I would paint up my brake caliper brackets. And since I had my grinder out to clean up the crossmember I used it to also cut down my truck windage tray. I cut 4 3/16" off to make it the same as the f body.
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Good job
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Little bit of brake line work. All bent and flared. Just have to do one flare on the line that runs to the rear of the car and then slap the calipers on and bleed the system. If no leaks then I'll stuff the motor and trans in.
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looks nice and clean. looks like you spent time thinking out the placement. not like the hackjob after thought of the disc brake conversion on my car lol.
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Well here we are........
Hard brake lines are all done and connected. Inner fenders showed up today. I have bought and returned 3 different rotors, and 2 different brake calipers. Trying to figure out what I needed. Got tired of fucking around and after all this fuckerey I ordered a set of 11" rotors that are 5×4 3/4 from speedway. So once they show up, I hope my junkyard calipers that I picked up a couple of months ago fit. I guess ill figure all this shit out once the rotors show up.
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New rotors showed up. Turns out after all my research it looks like they are ford granada rotors with Chevy bolt patter cast into them with the Chevy 7/16 studs too. They were $39.99 each and another $60 for shipping, but if I spent $100 it was free shipping. So I bought another bearing and seal set. Which brought it to a grand total of $107 shipped. If I can reuse my bearings and seal that are in my chevelle rotors I will. And then I will just have a extra set of them sitting on the shelf if I ever need them. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20160113_162937_zpscbcgxbid.jpg&hash=179ee1f771d2374d9c84c81fc523d0bb8938481d) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20160113_162937_zpscbcgxbid.jpg.html)
We're getting ready to sell our house so I'm packing up boxes this weekend to move into storage but hopefully in the next few days I can sneak out to the garage and slam these on and bleed my brakes.
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Get to work!
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So, new rotors fit perfect. Went to bolt on some rubber lines from a 81 camaro and they fit great besides I had to move my hardlines because when the tire was at full crank it would hit them. So I recently and today I put the pads in. Went to go blead the brakes and the drivers side brakelines is leaking at the caliper. Probably has a old washer or something stuck to it that I didn't see. Gonna pull it tomorrow and try to bleed it and get it back together. Probably won't happen until the weekend though. Once the brakes are all done, the motor is getting put back in and then fit my inner fenders and all that.
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Get to work!
MOAR! actually this needs its own thread lol. just makes me feel like im falling more behind, might have some more money to dump into turbo LS goodness like everyone else here soon.
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Get to work!
MOAR! actually this needs its own thread lol. just makes me feel like im falling more behind, might have some more money to dump into turbo LS goodness like everyone else here soon.
I agree. It needs it's own build thread.
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Get to work!
MOAR! actually this needs its own thread lol. just makes me feel like im falling more behind, might have some more money to dump into turbo LS goodness like everyone else here soon.
I agree. It needs it's own build thread.
Even if it's in the og section!!!!!!!!
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Damn solid work! I pick up a unknown condition th400 for 100, any recommendations for keeping 8th together besides a rebuild?
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Damn solid work! I pick up a unknown condition th400 for 100, any recommendations for keeping 8th together besides a rebuild?
Fuck it, I would run it as it. If it slips then pick up a rebuild for it. Otherwise look up the dual feed mod. Jake's performance has a great write up on it. That's what I did. Just got a $30 gasket set from ebay and called it a day.
On another note. Photo bucket is being gay and not uploading pics. But the brakes are in. No leaks and blead enough to see that there isn't fluid all over the floor. Motor is back in and now it time to test fit the inner fenders.
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Idk what happened but pgotobucket just uploaded the same pic 9 times. Anyways, the boy has been asking me for like 2 weeks to go for a ride in the nova. This is as close as he gets for a while. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20160125_163048_zpsde3lxbhj.jpg&hash=3355e51bdd2c1efdbdb72de17549f67104b2c0c7) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20160125_163048_zpsde3lxbhj.jpg.html)
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lol. he looks pretty excited! shit, I am. nova has a LSx 6.0 in it and on all 4 wheels. its a good day.
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Makes my pants tight.
Your nova, not your son.
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Well done!
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Well, fenders and core support are on. Everything fits about as well as it did before. Now I just need to elongate a couple of holes on the core support so I can actually bolt it to the frame rails. Then paint my inner fenders and bolt them on. Getting closers, that's for sure. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20160130_144238_zpsuzbgfsib.jpg&hash=9720273a6d9a54db945d9edf4d46af1843471833) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20160130_144238_zpsuzbgfsib.jpg.html) (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd518%2Fratcityrex%2F20160130_144243_zpslsuvb33l.jpg&hash=c72914e1ddfa500ff2e76a1f36e670f91696251d) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/ratcityrex/media/20160130_144243_zpslsuvb33l.jpg.html)
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looking good. looks like it lines up better than my car lol.
dont you need to put the inner fenders in first?
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Nope, core support, then the outer fenders, then the hinge supports then the inner fenders.
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Ok, so it's been a while since I've touched this car. In the process of getting ready to list my house up for sale. Pretty much been a mad dash!! From the time I get home until about 10 at night I'm working on this thing. Painting and what not. Once it's sold, (which will happen fast. Market is crazy in my area right now) it's getting moved to my inlaws where it will sit until I move out there and resume work on it. Which I'm assuming will happen sometime in april. Was hoping it would be running this spring but it might be pushed back to summer. So now I'm on the hunt for land to start building our new home. Kinda like whitey build thread. Keep a eye out for rhmh(house) build thread by ratcityrex!!
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im not sure if i could imagine anything more stressful than moving in with inlaws (or with anyone as an adult married with child) or buying a home... but also building a house from choosing the land all the way threw. wow, thats gotta be cool. whitey house proves it. too many cookie cutter houses out here, all look the same. nothing much is cooler than building a nova...other than a house.
get to work! im excited for both...
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Well, house is packed up some and in storage. It is now "staged" and goes up for sale on thursday. Took all of my fluorescent lights off the ceiling today. I had 8, 8' High Output lights and when my realtor told me that if they were bolted down to the house when they show it, it stays. I said fuck that, I'm taking them. They are about $200 each. So that's $1600 that I'm not leaving behind. Also did a search and the closest thing to my house that's up for sale is about 20 miles away. There isn't 1 house in my area thats 3 bedroom and 2 bath for under 325k. Needless to say I'm gonna make some money :-)
On that note, I got my hood support brackets painted and both of the inner fenders have undercoating on the wheels side. I ran out of my low gloss black that I like so much and had a half a can of rustolum appliance black epoxy. So I figured fuck it, I'll give it a shot. It turned out so good...lol needless to say i was at home depot today picking up 2 more cans. Only $3.97 a can. It dried hard as a rock and smooth as glass. Looks way better then I expeted. So I just need to shoot the other fender now and then figure out how to bolt them on...lol this is useless without pics, so this is all I got.
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So not much has changed. Moving the nova this weekend out to my inlaws place.
So we put the house up for sale on the 3rd. Got a full price cash offer on the 9th. Inspection was done on the 15th. On friday the 18th the buying agent contacted me and wanted to bring a contractor in to price out a few theings that needed to be addressed. I said sure but i would like to see the report. She got it to me that night. It was ridiculous how the picked 31 items that were the most miniscule things. Like a sliding glass door that wasnt clean. (Mother fucker, i have a 70lb boxer and a 2 year old) so I ran around like a wild man fixing little things and replacing a garage door opener because it didn't have the eyes so if you walked under it, it would squish you. And if your dumb enough to stand there while its closing on you, i hope it kills you because your a idiot. So they come in on Sunday with a contractor and bid out 8 thing. 6 of which I had done since friday. They still wrote them up in the bid and didn't even look to see if they needed to be done. They totalled up @ $2000. It was a joke. The buying realestate agent is a full blown cunt. If she was a man I would drive to her house and punch her in the fucking throat.
So the 2 thing I didn't do was replace a piece of cracked trim/belly band and paint it. Also don't have sediment traps in my gas line to my furnace or water heater. Those add up to $978 to have fixed. If they can't live with us taking that off the cost of the house them I'm going to tell them to go get fucked and relist my house. It's not the money at this point it's the fact that I put so much work into this house, and to have her come in and just pick it apart without ever even checking to see it was fixed makes me think they are just trying to buy the cost of the house down. And for that they can accept my counter offer or go shove there offer up there ass.
Rant!
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House is sold. Been out since the 8th. Still trying to sort shit out. I'm living with my inlaws while we search for some land. Land hunting has not been fun. Been hot and heavy on it and haven't caught anything. Nova sits...... 😭 hope to start wrenching on it next week.
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Ok, so today. I said fuck it and ordered some shit even though I'm trying to be jew and save. Ordered a xr7 1970 cougar radiator for the nova. Has the correct side in and out and it's overall size is perfect and it's a 3 core for $100 shipped. Also snagged a ls1 water pump and tensioner. Got to pick up the ls1 crank pully from Ross and the cam from Dustin and I should be sitting pretty.
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Ok, back on track. Got some shit for the nova.
Radiator, it's for a 67-70 mercury cougar xr7. 3 core, has in and out on pass side for the ls and should fit pretty good. Cost $100 shipped for flee Bay.
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Next, I got a ls1 water pump from rock auto along with a ls1 tensioner. All for fbody for about $110 shipped
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And last but not least, I picked up a 2001 ls6 cam from Dustin in a parts swap.
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I've also drilled and tapped the 1 hole on the block to mount the fbody alternator bracket. Now I just need to pick up the fbody crank pulley from josh and I'll be all set on the accesorys.
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so that's the radiator to use... I had a whole list of them around here somewhere trying to find a perfect match. nova seems to use a pretty small radiator.
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This rad is a little shorter then stock, but uses the same kinda style of mounting points. Just have to drill into the stock side flanges for new holes to make them mount up to the holes in the stock rad spacer. Hard to explain. I'll show everyone what I'm talking about when I get to that point.
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ok. ill wait....if i have to. ::) LOL.
i was almost dragging my radiator out to my back porch (seems to be 'long term storage' sight now). wasnt too excited about spending money on stock style china aluminum radiator. but inlet/outlet on passenger side + aluminum is now worth it.
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Well today,I yarded my lq4 cam out and put the ls6 cam in. Didn't do pics with it pulled out, but I did the dowls trick. Backed all the rocker arm bolts out and then got it to the point of where i was going to pull the cam and I spun it over about 5 or 6 times. Slilped in a couple of $0.97 5/16 dowls in to make sure the lifters didn't fall down while I had the cam out. Worked great. Took all of about 30min start to finish. These are the only pics I have
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my cam! :mexi:
nice that the dowels work. might do that some day to the truck...or just a 6.0L...
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Where do the wood dowels go?
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Where do the wood dowels go?
Pull valve covers, unfortunately rockers, take all the shit off so you can get to your cam, pull cam gear and all that shit, pull cam retainer plate, put cam gamer back on, spin it around 4 or 5 times to push all the lifters back up. Use a 5/16" wood dowls and push that bitch into the holes that are behind the cam plate. Make sure it goes all the way to the back of the block. I referenced how deep I need to push it in against the cam I had out and made a mark on the dowls. Pushed in with little side to side wiggle and it was a snug push the whole way but the lifters weren't falling down in the block that's for sure. Hardest part of the whole thing was pulling the crank pulley off. My 3 jaw puller is in storage somewhere and I had to rent one from the store. It was a totally piece of shit. So I ended up using a dodge/chrysler harmonic balancer puller and it worked ok.
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That's the puller I use on them to, not a perfect fit but ok.
I've never heard of this wood dowel operation before. Badass!!
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Yeah they sell special tools and shit like that to do it. But I think I had a total of $1.94 in wooden dowls. Think they were .94 each at home depot. Has to be the 5/16 ones though. It's great because you don't have to pull pushrods or heads!
Well, im One step closer. Fbody crank pulley/balancer on. Block tapped for Fbody alternator bracket, so I painted it and bolted it on. Tomorrow I'm going to try and get the water pump bolted on and get the other inner fenders painted and the one that is painted hopefully bolted on.
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i've done it about 50 times without the dowels. someone gave me a set of dowels a few weeks ago and i was like WTF are these for? and he then asked me if i've ever done a came swap in an ls.... lol. this guy.
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I've heard of alot of people doing swaps without them. I just know with my fucking luck I would drop one down into the pan and fuck myself....lol
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i made the dowels 4 peices. cut a screw in half and threaded it in both peices, no i have short dowels!
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Not much to report on. I painted my other inner fender. Now I need to figure out what I need to take off to get these bolted on. Once they are on. I orded up a tentioner pulley, and a belt. Hope to get that on monday. Then I'm going to sites that fit my sump Pan for my fuel tank and hopefully get it out and drained. After it airs out for a few days I'll light it off and see if I can get it to burn. Then hopefully weld that bitch up, paint it and bolt everything back in. Then maybe I'll work on intercooler and radiator shit.
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Belt and accesorys are done.
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Well I got a little work done today.
Rocker arms torqued down (undid them to do cam swap)
Valve covers bolted back on
New intake manifold gasket
New throttle body gasket
Intake bolted on
In900 injectors put in (just need spacers and longer bolts)
Cut the t3 flange off of my 1 manifold because I didnt like where it put the turbo. Just need to redo it.
Next thing to do is install inner fenders and hood hinges and see if my truck intake clears the hood.
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Fuel rail spacers installed and rail is bolted down. Hood test fitted and there's plenty of room between the truck intake and the underside of the hood. Like I could probably fit a holley hi ram without having to cut the underside of the hood up.
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I felt it move a little...
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Damn so much room in that engine bay!
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Damn so much room in that engine bay!
Not really. Once I put the radiator and inner fenders in its gonna take up so much room.
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Ok, so I'm trying to get the inner fenders bolted on so I can get the radiator, intercooler, plumbing and all that installed so I can weld up some new turbo manifolds. New inner fender fits like shit. I'll make it work, and nobody but me will probably notice it but it is what it is.
Fucking brake line was in the way. So I gave her a bend out of the way.
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That's all for now. Gonna try and finish up the other side tomorrow.
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Ok, so now both cpp inner fenders are bolted in half way. They fit like complete ass. I don't like it one bit. But I also don't have the money to spend to get ones that do fit. So I'm just going to rock with them all junky looking. The holes don't line up for shit, the hood hing plate are completely out of sorts. Thought about just saying fuck all and not run inner fenders but I know the engine bay will probably just get sanded down with dirt and debris. So for now it is what it is. I will take pics and post them up later.
On the up side. I pulled the gas tank out of my nova last week or maybe the week b4 last I don't remeber. But it's been sitting dry for a while. Still smelt like gas, so rather then try and wash it out and all that, I grabbed about 12' of toilet paper, doubled it up and tied a knot in the end and shoved the knot and about 3 feet of tp in the tank. Lit the end of the tp and hid around the corner like a little bitch with my fire extinguisher wating for something to happen. Watched the light puff of smoke slowly roll out if the tank. Waited a min or two and spayed with some water on the outside of the tank. Nothing. No sizzle or anything. Waited about 20 min and stuck my noise in the tank. It must have burnt up inside because it don't smell like gas at all. Just burnt paper. So I'm pretty sure I'm good now to cut and weld on it. I'll try and light it off again b4 I really burn in some weldts.
Cliffs:
Cpp 66-67 inner nova fenders fit my lakeshore front clip like shit.
Gast tank is ready for cutting and welding.
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Yeah the fenders make me want to bash them with,a hammer. Which might just happen. Or I just won't run any. So today I started work on my sump for my fuel tank.
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All trimmed, now I just need to drill some holes for the fuel to get into the sump and fire up the welder, set it to nignog and burn it in.
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Ok, holes are drilled and the large chucks of metal are out of the tank. Now I just need to wash it a shit load of times and then weld the sump on. Gonna give it a shot tomorrow if I get time.
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Welded it up. Filled it with water and got 3 little pin hole leaks. Circled them with a sharpie and emptied the tank. Gonna weld up the pin holes tomorrow. Don't really care how it looks because I'm going to under coat it black with wheel well liner so it just disappears into the undercarrage. Also going to probably put that gas tank sealer shit on the seams where I welded it on the outside too.
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<3
Get this thing done. My tuning fingers are hot!
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Man, trust me. I so wish this thing was done. I'm working on it but time is not on my side. Almost need to have a rhmt meet at my house and get this thing banged out in a weekend. I'm out in the stick, everyone can camp here in the woods and we can have a huge bonfire after we knock out some work on it!!
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Man, trust me. I so wish this thing was done. I'm working on it but time is not on my side. Almost need to have a rhmt meet at my house and get this thing banged out in a weekend. I'm out in the stick, everyone can camp here in the woods and we can have a huge bonfire after we knock out some work on it!!
i was threw the first 2 sentences and was like: fuck ill come help. lol. hate camping, but would probably be down (or hotel close by? lol). lmk.
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Hotel.....haha, not even close. Like 30 min away. You could camp out in the trailer on the bed...lol
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Thats not a bad idea
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Well the tank is summed. Fixed the pin holes and then epoxyed over the welded areas. Then I used undercoating and then once it dried I hit it with some paint.
Taped off the area I didn't want epoxy
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Layer the epoxy down, waited 10 min of so and them peeled the tape off.
Here it is all done just waiting to cure
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And now here it is all painted. Just waiting for the paint to dry for a few days b4 I shove it back in.
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Ordered 2, 44mm wastegates today from vs racing. After spending the day at the track on sat I realized that no matter how much I port the stock wastegate flippers I will not get enough air through. Maybe I'll get around to welding them on next year.
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Well I just picked these up for $83 shipped. C5 ls1 corvette exhaust manifolds. They should make a real nice tight package for the twins!!
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Well, the fuel tank is in and the sump looks killer. Blends right in. Just the way I wanted it too.
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Now mock up time. I picked up a (I belive this is what it was from) 69 cougar xr7 3 core radiator off of eBay last year sometime. Has the correct in and out placement for a ls and the correct hight and width for the nova. Fits well but I need to get a couple of pieces of aluminum to add onto the sides to I can bolt it in place.
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And yes, I have a whopping 2.5" between radiator and the intercooler.
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Well, radiator installed and I put a couple of balls of tinfoil on the radiator and set the hood on just to make sure it wasn't to high. Fits perfect with no issues.
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Looking good AJ
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Bump
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I wish there was something exciting to write about this, but there's nothing to write. I pushed it into my garage and that's about as far as it's got. So many other projects around the house it's been crazy. Trying to get all of our property fenced in by the end of summer. Hoping once that's done then I'll be able to finally work on the Nova some. Probably won't happen until this fall or winter.
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i was excited for a second. was hoping to at least see a picture of it not making progress :-*
i like the house stuff too. i am jealous of your house, property, and hardtop... also i love your new gate....or is it a wall? :mexi:
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i was excited for a second. was hoping to at least see a picture of it not making progress :-*
i like the house stuff too. i am jealous of your house, property, and hardtop... also i love your new gate....or is it a wall? :mexi:
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Built a arbor
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Built a couple of post with lights and a electric gate opener.
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Put up a camera so I can keep a look out on shit that happening in our woods and possable see some wildlife
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Now I'm rebuilding chainsaws...lol
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Well, I've been super motivated to do shit lately. So........ I wired up 8, 8' lights in my garage. They are the same old school t12 high output fluorescent lights that I had at my old place. They put out about 128,000 lumens of light. So god damn bright! Also I started pulling wire and I am about to wire up 5, 20amp outlets in my garage too. Then once that's done I'll wire up the plugs for my welder and air compressor. Then I just have to go to my in-laws and get all the rest of my tools to bring home and start organising stuff. Hope to have most this done by next Monday. Then once all the stuff is put away, I can put a little focus on the nova. Can't wait!
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nova time soon....
I hate my fluorescents, seem like they go through bulbs too fast.
Real close to going to LEDs next round.
Issue is I have 8, 8 footers and all the cheap LEDs I find are 4 footers.
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Yes....... I've only burnt 1 bulb out and it was already used with who knows how many hours on it already. I've only burned them maybe a couple of hundred hours. It's way overkill in my garage but I love having this much light. In order to get the same about of light I would have to spend a couple thousand on led's. And it just air worth it to me.
Went and picked up a whole truckload of stuff from my in-laws today. Just small thing that I can lift by myself. But next week I'm going to try and grab everything I can. Gonna try and borrow a trailer from a friend and see what I can get in it. Have a feeling I will have everything. Then I get to put all this shit away.
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So I've organized the garage well enough to find the piles of tools I need. Most all thrown in my roll away but not organized. Now I just need to take the tools that are sitting on my bench and hang them up on the pegboard.
Today I finished wiring all my outlets in my garage. Put a extra 3 outlets in the garage and wired the one that was outside so it hot all the time. (Fucking electricians wired it to my light switch in my garage. So If I want to turn the plug on(the one I use for my Christmas lights) I have to also have my garage lights on...... (dumb as shit!)
Went to wire up both my 220v outlets today (one for the welder and one for the air compressor) and the 6gauge wire I have for my welder is about 2' too short. And I had to use my air compressor outlet box because I was 1 short for my outlets. But those will be always as fuck to wire in.
Couple of car updates. I picked up a steering column bearing and 2 t3 flanges. My old ones rusted and the one I did weld up warped real bad. So I got two, t3 stainless steel 1/2" flanges this time around. Also picked up some 2"x3" sch 40 rectangle tubing to finish up my exhaust manifolds.
This weekend is half off at the pick and pull, so after seeing Dustin do it, I'm going to go get a 8.8 rear and hopefully look for a 3" driveline in the wrecking yard to shorten up and use so I don't twist this powerglide driveline up.
That's all for now. Photobuck has really screwed my picture uploading.
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imgur.com <~ upload some pics. i have been using this since the fall of the bucket. make sure you put the pics/albums as private/hidden or whatever, otherwise you get a bunch of random ass comments and notifications.
i wanna see progress on this car, almost as much as mine. lol.
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Okay, so I'm gonna give imgur.com a try.
Bought a 1969 camaro lip for the nova. Only one I really like that's not carbon fiber and $800 otherwise all the rest I don't really care for. Also got a set of t3 flanges in stainless and 1/2"
Went to my pick and pull yard this weekend because they were having a half off sale. Deals! Got a whole 8.8 rear with 3.73 and a lsd with a swaybar and the u joint flange/yoke adapter for $105. O ly thing it needs is a new diff cover because this one is drilled from the yard. Got one off of rock auto for $19 shipped. Then i hopped on ebay and picked up a set of leaf spring pads so once i shoten the axle i can weld this shit up. A few weeks ago I also picked up some period correct plates for my nova so I can licence it as a classic and not have to pay tabs ever again. They are kinda beat but they match the rest of the car.
This is a 69 camaro lip on a nova. Looks fucking great!
(https://i.imgur.com/ZYZDMMv.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/iyWUqrK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/49ZZXCZ.jpg)
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oh, so that nova you sent me had the camaro lip? nice. cant wait to see how much of a bitch it is to install. then ill order one anyway. almost think the lip needs to be mounted back a bit more.
progress going to be happening? or just parts collection?
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So the dude has pics on his fb page with it mounted back. I don't really like how it looks mounted back. Will probably look gay as shit on a stick on my car because it's not dumped/lowered, but oh well. It will get there. I'm literly going to run the lip on with self taping screws and maybe some washers. After all its a $30 eBay plastic lip.
Progress is happening. Gonna strip the 8.8 tomorrow and get all the shit ripped off it and get it ready to cut down.
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Well, the 8.8 has been cut and welded. I cut 2.875 out of the drivers side axle tube. Clamped it together with 2 pieces of 3" C channel and tacked it together. Rotated the rear 90° and tacked the other sides. Once it was all tacked up, I pulled the clamps and the c channel and burned her down alternating sides. Ground everything with my sanding flapper disk on my angle grinder. Saw where I missed and all my little pin holes and went back over and burned a bunch more. Ground down again.....lol so tiered of grinding. Now I was looking for sway bar perches (since it's also offset to one side about 3") and I can't find shit. So I'm just gonna make some out of my 3" c channel and burn them in. Anyways this is how far I got b4 I called it a day. Need to pull the stock rear now and slide this into place and see what the angle is looking like and once I like it burn the leaf perches in.
(https://i.imgur.com/s5lcXV6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/b8alq4w.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/7ML9wad.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5fk2DUi.jpg)
Last pic is of both sides all cleaned up. Once I get the old rear out of my nova, I need to clean out the 8.8. It's so full of metal shavings. Just gonna plug the holes and fill it up with purple power and hot water and let it soak.
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Okay, so here's some parts
67-69 camaro front lip/spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/shknWgg.jpg)
Wheel bearings and seals
(No picture)
Picked up a ring and pinion 3.08 ratio for $70 shipped Dude was asking $100 and we bartered back and forth on the price and settled for $70
(https://i.imgur.com/G1EP0us.png)
Wheel drill guid/jig so I can convert ford axles to gm pattern and gm pattern to ford.
(https://i.imgur.com/gWHFWCz.jpg)
Picked up a chunk of 2" C channel for the swaybar mounts for the rear axle
(https://i.imgur.com/I7w3SDK.jpg)
Today I'm going to go home and pull the factory rear out of the nova. I have a dude that wants to buy it for $450 who is local I'll believe it when he shows with the cash. Until then I have a larger ass paper weight.
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3.08 ring and pinion showed up, was fucked due to shipper not properly packaging it. Sent it back for a refund. Found a guy local who has the same thing and for $30 less. Gonna swoop that up on Tuesday.
(https://i.imgur.com/trtSlM2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/on6q33s.jpg)
Sold my factory 8.2" nova rear to a guy yesterday. Got $450 for it. Feeling pretty good about that...haha
(https://i.imgur.com/GAHZaYg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HAPKuFn.jpg)
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Where are those wheelies
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Sub'd. Where's the updates!?!
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It will be ready to hit the streets come summer of 2028.
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It will be ready to hit the streets come summer of 2028.
Still on par for summer of 2028. Car has been sitting in the same spot since my last update on this post. Its only been 3 years since I've touched it. 😖
Life has happened. Had another kid. Still married, working now more than ever. My familys business is booming. Coffee business is crazy right now. Lots of remodeling and adding things to make this company even more successful.
Making a goal starting October to work on the car at least 2 hours a week. Dont sound like much but 10pm at night is pretty much when my day ends. It starts about 445am.
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At least you have coffee to get though those long days 😂🤣😂🤣
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At least you have coffee to get though those long days 😂🤣😂🤣
Ain't that the truth! Mainline coffee grounds over here...lol
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I just realized this thread started in 2012.
Damn dude, that's one reason I don't want an old car. The projects seem to take too long for my attention span.
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I just realized this thread started in 2012.
Damn dude, that's one reason I don't want an old car. The projects seem to take too long for my attention span.
Dude, its just life. Has nothing to do with a old car. Would take me just as long if it was a civic.
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I just realized this thread started in 2012.
Damn dude, that's one reason I don't want an old car. The projects seem to take too long for my attention span.
Dude, its just life. Has nothing to do with a old car. Would take me just as long if it was a civic.
I don't know man, for me the Honda projects I've had never took too long, but every old vehicle I've had I sold before it was even close to drivable.
I think for me it's because the Honda stuff was so much cheaper. And unless you have a total shit box the Hondas usually required less work and parts.
Maybe it's because I was a broke ass trying to build a 65 nova
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I just realized this thread started in 2012.
Damn dude, that's one reason I don't want an old car. The projects seem to take too long for my attention span.
Dude, its just life. Has nothing to do with a old car. Would take me just as long if it was a civic.
I don't know man, for me the Honda projects I've had never took too long, but every old vehicle I've had I sold before it was even close to drivable.
I think for me it's because the Honda stuff was so much cheaper. And unless you have a total shit box the Hondas usually required less work and parts.
Maybe it's because I was a broke ass trying to build a 65 nova
Shit, I drove mine for 2 years before I started tearing it apart. Tore it apart, had the LS in the factory front clip, then decided to do a m2 front end. Then decided to sell house, then move in with inlasws for 2 years while building house. Then moved into house. Then had another kid. Then decided to work on property.
Gonna start trying to put work in on this thing so it can hopefully just be able to roll around rather than sit on hack stands 😖
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Shit, I built 3 airplanes and a civic in the time you have been working on this :)
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We need an update!
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We need an update!
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We need an update!
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