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General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: caged on April 18, 2009, 04:44:00 AM

Title: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on April 18, 2009, 04:44:00 AM
As iv had a few people ask me to put my build up I decided to do another write up as I'm banned from HMT and cant copy it.
My ride is a 2000 Mitsubishi L300 van with a 4G64 2.4L turbo 5 speed manual. It has Mitsubishi legnum VR4 16inch rims, lowered 2 inchs rear and 1.5 inchs front. I got hold of an LSD center from a L200 ute for $100 which is fucken cheap, before I had the LSD the van would just fry 1 tyre and not go any wear. Now it bags up both but hooks up quite well. I wanted to build a sleeper so the out side of the van looks quite standard and isn't too loud at idle, it also has a tow bar, a "I love lawn bowls" sticker on the back and retains the standard 1.5 inch exhaust out the back but isn't hooked up.
It was built on a budget out of alot of free parts and dodgy RHMT welding and fabrication.
-Walbro intank pump
-50/50 mix Water methylated spirits injection with a 5L plastic fuel can converted.
-cheap 3inch pod filter with a whitey bend intake.
-IHI VF 23 wrx sti turbo (way too small)
-DIY log manifold
-3inch dump into home made 3inch muffler box that dumps a foot before the diff under the car.
-De capped WRX injectors 800+cc's
-Bored out standard throttle body from 55mm to 60mm using a standard wrx throttle blade with ported manifold.
-Reground turbo cam
-Haltech E6K ECU  street tuned by me with a wideband and chassis ears.
-2 step limiter that I see 10psi with cut set at 3800rpm (shoots flames)
-Diy shift light by using 4 LED's in the dash.

This car was a great learning experience and is fucken fun to drive :noel:. I have had quite a few races to about 130kph against a few modded evos, skylines and STIs and have beaten all of them by at least 1/2 a van length :noel: . I tried to play with a 2jz turbo supra last night but he just laughed and shook his head lol, I was a bit disappointed. I see 12psi of boost by 2400rpm and it pulls hard to 7000rpm.

4g64 Turbo Van (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzM0IMoI9o#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Stealthmode on April 18, 2009, 10:33:10 AM
  I cannot argue with how this post was structured and executed. Excellent work.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: HiProfile on April 18, 2009, 11:45:35 AM
Fucking tits. And I don't mean the porn. :noel:
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: patsmx5 on April 18, 2009, 12:51:51 PM
Damnit boy. That's badass.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: 88dx on April 18, 2009, 01:32:59 PM
Thats thing is badass. A van u can fuck Ho's in and do burnouts idk what more you need  :noel:
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: dvst8r on April 18, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
Thats thing is badass. A van u can fuck Ho's in and do burnouts idk what more you need  :noel:

I cannot think of a better way to put it. OP is my vote for "Noob" of the year for sure.



**** Note: Noob in quotations as he is new here, but obviously has the rhmt fundamentals under control.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on April 19, 2009, 01:17:07 AM
I joined up to HMT in early 05 and came over here a week after it turned to shit, I have picked up alot of info from this site and know when to keep my mouth shut, I try to put as much solid info back into the site as I can.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: dvst8r on April 19, 2009, 01:25:40 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Urban Indian on April 19, 2009, 04:02:36 AM
i love the ingenuity.


Solid work sir, solid
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: ryan89crx on April 19, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
van is sick! quality work
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on April 22, 2009, 05:09:18 AM
Well I street tuned my van last night . I wound the boost up to 16psi and the improvement was huge, Unfortunately after a few launches off the 2 step in 2nd gear the clutch got hot and was slipping slightly. When I first turboed it the standard clutch lasted about 3 streets lol, I then when to an RX7 pressure plate and an organic disk which is what is slipping now. My clutch guy at the time couldn't find anything else that would fit in the bell housing so I'm a bit fucked off that i need to upgrade again. Its booked in for a power run on the dyno on Friday so it should be interesting if the clutch holds up, and on Saturday is drag racing which should be interesting.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on April 28, 2009, 11:27:25 PM
Well the clutch has been fine after it cooled down. I had the car on the dyno but was getting a miss fire above 4800rpm, I thort it was from the rich mixtures but I later found out I had my plugs gaped at .9mm ::). The car managed to put out 240rwhp @ 4600rpm with 13psi of boost  before it miss fired, so I imagine it should have alot more in it when it goes to 7000rpm and I turn the boost back to 18psi. We had to put a few people in the back as it was wheel spinning on the rollers lol.
I deiced to go out for a tune after I put new plugs in, It was going well until a 4th gear rev limiter snapped my p/s belt and took out a coil lead. It cut the end completely off so i put it in the coil hole and tapped it up and drove home with out any problems :noel:.I put on a new belt and crimped on a new end on the lead because all the shops were shut and racing was in the morning, I had to wind the boost back down with the crappy lead end to stop misfiring.
Went racing and could only manage a 14.8@98mph with a 2.6 60ft and problems selecting gears >:(. I managed one good 60ft of 2.11 but couldn't get 3rd gear and run 15.1@84mph which mean I should get a low 14 when I can shift the thing. I am also going to put another Alcohol nozzle pre turbo to try bring my 140Deg F Inlet temps down.
van vs comodore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_UD9ZCf4xg#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: 92CXyD on April 29, 2009, 12:44:03 AM
You are New Zealand but why is the U.S. flag at that dragstrip?
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on April 29, 2009, 01:13:18 AM
You are New Zealand but why is the U.S. flag at that dragstrip?

You raise a good point lol. It was mainly a muscle car meet and since we have never built cars here all our muscle cars are from the US?? But I never see a Japanese flag for the import days haha
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: onlyflash944 on May 01, 2009, 10:06:57 AM
looks like it launches pretty good.

its like the van from old school NZ style
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: marcj on May 01, 2009, 11:43:32 AM
A challenger appears
(http://members.lycos.nl/Vorden/pics/espaceg.jpg)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on May 01, 2009, 10:07:23 PM
looks like it launches pretty good.

Its fucken hard to get off the line, I launch it in 2nd gear. 1st gear is usually over to quick. I didnt have a p/s belt on either which didnt help (it broke after the first run), on one run I was side ways for the whole 60fter.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: AstroVannin on May 02, 2009, 07:51:53 AM
A challenger appears
(http://members.lycos.nl/Vorden/pics/espaceg.jpg)


Shit... I remember that thing !!!!
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: 7808 on August 29, 2009, 03:25:23 PM
sweet shit.  i love vans  :?:
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: malichite on August 29, 2009, 08:21:24 PM
How the fuck did I miss this post.  Solid build man.  We need this post sticked for it's well played delivery.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: trevor72 on August 31, 2009, 05:27:49 PM
i like your burnout, not sure i've seen a van burnout like that before, very nice.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: 92CXyD on August 31, 2009, 05:39:36 PM
This build makes me smile everytime I see it.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on September 01, 2009, 06:42:44 AM
Haha she's still going strong as a daily driver, it has huge traction problems till 4th gear unless carefully driven. I will have to put a build thread up for my other play toy. 1994 Mitsubish GSR (same as an EVO 2 but with a turbo 1.8L). heres a vid of me out launching a R32 GTR that the owner couldnt drive for shit. Its also been built on a RHMT budget/style, hockey puck mounts ftw. O0

GTR Skyline vs GSR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Yg8qfg39Y#normal)
GSR Launch's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOW_PnOk5dM#normal)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Rob.K on September 01, 2009, 06:44:20 AM
This is a top notch and real home made turbo build and thread. Props.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Robb on September 01, 2009, 08:13:41 PM
Josh, which 1.8L did the GSR's get?  4g67 or the 4g93???
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on September 02, 2009, 03:37:35 AM
4G93T. It will soon be replaced with a 4G64 2.4L and a HX40 :noel:. Best bit is the drive train is bullet proof standard.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Robb on September 02, 2009, 08:43:37 AM
4G93T. It will soon be replaced with a 4G64 2.4L and a HX40 :noel:. Best bit is the drive train is bullet proof standard.

Yeah I saw your post on ZeroG, do the 4g6X motors bolt up to the 4G9X transmissions?  Are the bolt patterns the same?  Here in the states, the Volvo S40 comes with the 4g93, wondering if that might be a possible source of parts.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Dserieshatch on September 03, 2009, 02:52:40 AM
One sick fuckin van!  :noel:
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: CivicZC on September 03, 2009, 04:04:44 AM
Would make a good ChiMo van.

Room for lots of kids and the speed to get away :noel:
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: ironcrx on September 04, 2009, 01:21:11 AM
The A-Team got nothing on that van.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: HiProfile on September 04, 2009, 01:13:34 PM
The A-Team got nothing on that van.

Fuck that, you know the A-Team's van was only setup for drifting. Besides, they had fucking automatics in the trunk. O0
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on September 05, 2009, 06:08:26 AM

Yeah I saw your post on ZeroG, do the 4g6X motors bolt up to the 4G9X transmissions?  Are the bolt patterns the same?  Here in the states, the Volvo S40 comes with the 4g93, wondering if that might be a possible source of parts.
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The AWD 4G93 is the same case as the AWD 4g63 evo box, different ratios and the evo got double sincro's. The AWD and FWD boxs have the same bolt pattern, the RWD usually have a wider pattern and dont bolt up.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on June 08, 2012, 08:50:59 PM
Sweet van! :-) I replied to your  post on the ex-forum a few days ago ... 4 years late. And now this! Still around?

PS, love stock exhaust at rear not hooked up :-)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: flat_black on June 08, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Old ass thread, still a sweet Van...

You should ship me an RB30 short block  ;DDD seriously
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on June 13, 2012, 08:23:06 AM
Sweet van! :-) I replied to your  post on the ex-forum a few days ago ... 4 years late. And now this! Still around?

PS, love stock exhaust at rear not hooked up :-)

Cheers mate. A guy from palmy north brought it and the first thing he did was put a cannon muffler on and a huge intercooler out the front with 19inch mags(pic below). Looked fucken shit. I decided 6 months ago that this was the most fun vehicle Iv owned for a daily driver and had to do another one now im living back in Australia. Ill do a build thread when I get it going, its got a series 8 RX7 gearbox and a 2L evo 3 motor with a compound turbo set up with a tdo5 fed by an HX40 pro. Should do 550whp easily.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q293/joshrotor/van.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q293/joshrotor/IMG_20120604_214308.jpg)
Old ass thread, still a sweet Van...

You should ship me an RB30 short block  ;DDD seriously
       
Rb's are up to fuck all, im a JZ man. Shipping would kill you.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: 92CXyD on June 13, 2012, 08:52:44 AM
Badass, luv to see more picts and ripper vids.  :noel:
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: crxvtec91 on June 13, 2012, 12:52:29 PM
Badass, luv to see more picts and ripper vids.  :noel:

Damn right!
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on June 14, 2012, 03:03:41 PM
Cheers mate. A guy from palmy north brought it and the first thing he did was put a cannon muffler on and a huge intercooler out the front with 19inch mags(pic below). Looked fucken shit.
I literally shouted out loud "OH NO!!!" when I read this! And my wife said "What???" because it sounded fucking serious. Which it is. :-(

New one looks MEAN! Which bit of ozzy? I'm living in Barcelona; modified cars and skid marks outside my undies are few and far between here! :-(

What's the configuration of the compound setup exactly?

Fred.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: flat_black on June 23, 2012, 08:34:01 PM
rb's are upto fuck all... what does that mean...

people pay 1000 dollars for rb30's here... i know what you get them for surely shipping isnt 800 bucks
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: superdaveosbourne on June 23, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
You pay 1k for rb30's?  I'm in the wrong business...

What does an rb26 go for?
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: flat_black on June 24, 2012, 08:29:20 PM
rb30's aren't easy to find here, some people get them cheaper but alot of people will pay 1k for a motor in good shape.. rb26's probably would go for an easy 2000 if it was in good shape and complete
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: superdaveosbourne on June 24, 2012, 10:47:34 PM
I'm assuming that 2k is for an R32 block.  That's not too bad.

I still can't get over 1k for an rb30...
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on June 25, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
"rb26's probably would go for an easy 2000 if it was in good shape and complete" - where?
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: flat_black on June 25, 2012, 11:12:49 PM
Yeah sometimes people get em for 700 or so but 1k isnt uncommon.. from what ive read.. im in the middle of trying to get one now so i can build it sometime down the road... the 25/26 i got now will have to due
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on June 26, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
20,25,30 are all cheap as chips, at least in NZ. 26 is not cheap, anywhere, that I'm aware of. It's right up there with 20B and the toyota V12.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: flat_black on June 26, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
well an r32 rb26 swap with ecu wiring and AWD manual trans goes for 2700 on ebay... take away the trans and ebay im sure you could find one for 2k.. not that expensive really
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: superdaveosbourne on June 27, 2012, 10:18:53 AM
2k is pretty common for a good running long block 26 up here in canuckistan.  If you want to talk about r34 nur spec blocks, that's a different story...
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on June 28, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
Furry muff.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on July 01, 2012, 11:20:13 PM
Sorry for the late reply iv been away for work. Im living on the sunshine coast in Queensland, I did a heavy diesel fitter upskill from light vehicle mechanic and Im working at an open pit coal mine up in the Bowen basin. The compound set up is the following-- (Exhaust side) forged evo 3 engine, with twinscroll manifold to evo 7 twinscroll 16g tdo5hr using a smaller evo 4 rear housing, it has a 60mm wastegate that fully opens and bypasses the tdo5. The down pipe from the tdo5 feeds into a billet 7 blade HX40 and the waste gate from the tdo5 also feeds into the HX40. There is also a 40mm waste gate pre hx40 that dumps to atmosphere.   
(compressor side)---- hx40 feeds into the tdo5's inlet and then intercooler and plenum. 
The Hx40 will only need to run 10-15psi and the total system pressure will be between 30-40psi and is running E85 and staged injection (8 injectors). This is still a rhmt style build with not much $$$$ spent.
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on July 02, 2012, 03:35:17 AM
I love your exhaust side plan, it's exactly like the Borg Warner R2S setup. The intake side plan isn't as nice, though. Did you consider bypassing the 16g with an air valve too like the R2S setup? Should be mean all the same. How are you planning to cool the 60mm gate?
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on July 02, 2012, 05:32:21 AM
I love your exhaust side plan, it's exactly like the Borg Warner R2S setup. The intake side plan isn't as nice, though. Did you consider bypassing the 16g with an air valve too like the R2S setup? Should be mean all the same. How are you planning to cool the 60mm gate?

The drag strip would be the longest time it will be on boost and the tdo5 turbine still flows alot when the gates open so im hoping that cooling wont be too much of a problem, it also hangs down in an area that should see good airflow.
The Tdo5 compressor shouldn't be a restriction, as far as it knows its 5000 leagues below sea level. If it was bypassed it wouldn't be a true compound setup, I based alot of mine off the boost logic 2jz supra that makes 20psi at 2800 rpms and making around 800 RWHP. Its going to be really interesting, if it doesn't work as well as I hope I can always change the setup around.



Marc's 2JZ Turbo Compound Setup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Me6yWApzY#ws)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: fe3tcourier on July 03, 2012, 04:34:10 AM
If it was bypassed it wouldn't be a true compound setup
Right, it would be a clever sequential twin turbo setup that actually works :-)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: caged on November 06, 2012, 06:10:31 AM
did a 4th gear pull low rpm and boost.
http://youtu.be/i-J0taYLxeQ (http://youtu.be/i-J0taYLxeQ)
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 06, 2012, 01:08:35 PM
If you want to talk about r34 nur spec blocks, that's a different story...

What is a nur spec block?  We've an R34 RB26 sitting here that the cams and crank have been stolen out of, otherwise complete longblock.  That worth anything two weeks before racewars?
Title: Re: nsfw Turbo Van
Post by: HiProfile on November 07, 2012, 12:46:27 AM
Strike.

If it was bypassed it wouldn't be a true compound setup
Right, it would be a clever sequential twin turbo setup that actually works :-)

The compound setup I recall where the guy had a valve bypassing the small turbo's compressor had lots of issues. It either wouldn't open or close reliably, can't recall which. Compound-sequential is all about pressure ratios. A 35lb/min turbo with 15psi at it's inlet will pass over 60lb/min before becoming a restriction.