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General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 05:59:12 PM

Title: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 05:59:12 PM
Just started! More info coming soon as I keep it going.

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Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
Mod list: Currently Most N/A Items without lots of the new stuff. Will update soon as well

1999 Honda Civic DX
2000 Integra GSR Motor and Tranny (B18C1)
1999 Honda Civic EX Interior Complete with Power Windows
Integra Type R 5 Lug Conversion
Integra Type R Gun Metal Rims
OBDII to OBDI Conversion
Neptune ECU with Demon Board and Real Time Programming and Datalogging
Exedy Stage 2 Clutch
MFactory Flywheel
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
AEM Fuel Rail (Not installed yet)
4 Bar Map Sensor (Not installed yet)
Skunk2 Intake Manifold (Carb Legal)
Skunk2 Strut Bars (Front and Rear Upper)
Skunk2 Adjustable Camber Kit (Front and Rear)
Skunk2 Extended Lug Nuts
Skunk2 Extended Wheel Studs
Tein Flex Coilover Suspension
RS*R CatBack Exhaust
CTR Rear Lip
Championship White Paint
ITR Shifter Boot & Weighted Shift Knob
CTR Side Markers
SI Cluster
Rear Brakes
Nitto Neo Gen Tires
AEM Carb Legal Intake
Slight Wire Tuck
2 Way Pager Alarm
CDM Aluminum Radiator
New Speakers, trunk shocks
5 Lug Spare Tire

New Stuff:
CDM BOV, Wastegate and Cast Iron Manifold, Intercooler
2.5 Inch Intercooler Piping
Precision 780cc Injectors
HOLSET HX35
68mm Throttle body
Polar Bear Tuning Throttle Body Spacer

Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 06:10:09 PM
Fabrication:

This is my first time welding and braising. Power of RHMT

Charge pipes.. Went with some aluminum braising to keep the pipes together. Will be using couplers to make sure pinholes dont create problems.
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Downpipe.. Ordered a bend online and cut a few pieces for fitment. Then proceeded to mock it up and weld to the vband flange.
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Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Before and After turbo build pics..

Before
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Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 06:22:15 PM
More Progress
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
Final build pics
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: ratcityrex on November 04, 2011, 07:02:09 PM
Looks like its off to a good start.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: chris on November 04, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
Finally got themanifold off 8)
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: speedjunky01 on November 04, 2011, 08:14:19 PM
looks clean

needs more radiator for road racing! haha
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 04, 2011, 08:23:41 PM
Finally got themanifold off 8)

Thanks for the help on that. I pretty much did what you suggested with slotting the nut to death. It didn't give up so I ended up smashing it out with a flathead and a rubber mallet on the slotted nut pieces. Easily the toughest one I have ever taken out.

looks clean

needs more radiator for road racing! haha

Thanks.. I have a trick up my sleeve for this which has not been suggested in my other thread, but I can see some lower temps possibly coming with it. Will make it work with though when the time comes for testing. I definitely plan to test on the street before wasting a whole day at the track with constant overheats. I plan on using the antilag feature as well so this will be a challenge even more so.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: speedjunky01 on November 04, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
very nice plan yeah would SUCK to spend the money on a track day and pull over every other lap :P

keep the oil temp happy too, even with my stock z6 at 12psi it was to hot after a good chunk of the day.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: MTZ on November 04, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
very clean i like it
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: turbohf on November 05, 2011, 12:26:24 AM
bust out the angle grinder and work that block over, mount the turbo the right way on that manifold, and then put a full length radiator in that thing...
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 05, 2011, 01:34:33 AM
The oil pan is shallow directly where the hot side of the turbo is mounted. I don't have a picture mocked up with it like I should have shown, but I did mount it up to check for clearances. From what I see the alignment of the dp will be perfect at that angle. I am referring to having the cold side facing the drivers side door. I am still going to have to slightly adjust the radiator location but will keep air flow in mind.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: turbohf on November 05, 2011, 01:03:28 PM
buy a manifold that is made for what your doing then. this will be fail... :-\
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 05, 2011, 01:30:51 PM
Like a topmount? There is no plans for a full size radiator or intercooler. Be a little more specific I am all ears
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: 92CXyD on November 05, 2011, 01:42:57 PM
I use the same injectors, what offsets are you using?   :noel:

Are ya posting this build on your site, TurboByHolset.com?  ;DDD
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: glustic on November 05, 2011, 10:02:19 PM
Murdered out engine bay???
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: turbohf on November 05, 2011, 11:36:50 PM
Like a topmount? There is no plans for a full size radiator or intercooler. Be a little more specific I am all ears

just saying that the manifold is not designed to mount the turbo that way. pushes the turbo too far forward, and aims the downpipe and intake like shit.

im in no way endorsing or condoning a topmount.


what are the plans then?
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 06, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
Just acquired a Lincoln Weld 100 from my jew cousins for $100 bucks. Going to Harbor Freight tomorrow for a welding helmet and a few other things then I will start trying to fab some shit up.


I use the same injectors, what offsets are you using?   :noel:

Are ya posting this build on your site, TurboByHolset.com?  ;DDD

No offsets programmed yet. I will post them up though when I get to that. I tried to install the injectors but the o rings were too large to allow them to fit the fuel rail.

Will post it up on the HOLSET forum soon paying more attention to the turbo details


Murdered out engine bay???

I had to google this ;) In a way yes and under no trend to do so. I am just trying to make it look more natural and not have bling parts everywhere. Should look tasteful in the end though. I do like the term

Like a topmount? There is no plans for a full size radiator or intercooler. Be a little more specific I am all ears

just saying that the manifold is not designed to mount the turbo that way. pushes the turbo too far forward, and aims the downpipe and intake like shit.

im in no way endorsing or condoning a topmount.


what are the plans then?

Point taken. Upon closer inspection when I start aiming pipes for cutting if it does not work I will look for another one. At $65 bucks shipped, switching is always an option.



Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: crxvtec91 on November 07, 2011, 01:02:26 PM
Take full advantage of the twin scroll, makes a HUGE difference. What size hot side do you have?
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: ratcityrex on November 07, 2011, 05:43:43 PM
interested to see where the holslut spools on this motor.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 07, 2011, 07:26:32 PM
Take full advantage of the twin scroll, makes a HUGE difference. What size hot side do you have?

Not sure what you mean by taking advantage. I WAS going to switch out the exhaust side for something that was the same size but in a lighter form, but the costs for it was about 150 minimum. I have had a change of plans since then and just decided to keep it. 12cm 3 inch exhaust.

interested to see where the holslut spools on this motor.

Antilag should get it going nicely  8)
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: TheMadScientist on November 07, 2011, 08:49:04 PM
shits slow  ;DDD
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: crxvtec91 on November 08, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
Take full advantage of the twin scroll, makes a HUGE difference. What size hot side do you have?

Not sure what you mean by taking advantage. I WAS going to switch out the exhaust side for something that was the same size but in a lighter form, but the costs for it was about 150 minimum. I have had a change of plans since then and just decided to keep it. 12cm 3 inch exhaust.

interested to see where the holslut spools on this motor.

Antilag should get it going nicely  8)

Twin waste gates if you want full affect from the twin scoll, or trade me you none ported 12cm for my super ported 12cm hot side.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 11, 2011, 03:16:13 AM
Still waiting for parts.. Got all the speaker stuff yesterday and installed in a hour or so. Its removable so I can take it out easy, save weight, and its not too smart to race with a speaker box as it could potentially kill you in a accident  :?:
Industrial Dubstep is what I usually listen to
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I bungee corded it to the rear strut bar but need to throw some padding on the bar where it meets the amp for vibration dampening.


Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 11, 2011, 03:19:58 AM
I have been playing with the intercooler placement and piping while I wait on my welding mask. Already cut a few pipes and stabbed the shit out of my thumb on accident when I was mocking up the IC pipe.
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Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: Tim on November 11, 2011, 12:02:58 PM
Have you test fit your rad back in there?
I had a similar mani in my integra with an hx35 and that slight angle aims the downpipe right at the radiator.
I had to rock the gangster lean on the rad and it all around sucked.
I finally changed my manifold but I need to repost my build thread, it took a dirt nap.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: ratcityrex on November 11, 2011, 12:29:35 PM
I would get another header flange, and then stack that betwent the mani and the head, and then flip your mani around and notch the block the rest of the way for your tubo to clear. This is the turbohf way to do it. I saw him do it a few years back with his 50trim on the itr, He keept the full rad, ac & ps. Shit was kinda tight but it all fit.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: turbohf on November 13, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
and i still do...

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you look you can see it in that pic.



now yours....
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looks fuckin retarded. buy the right manifold for what you want to do. or mount the turbo correctly...
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 14, 2011, 10:25:40 PM
Although it looks really good, these new methods are confusing. I am going by the standard fast and furious 1 writeups.


Intercooler and radiator mockup. Using the old radiator as those fins get damaged way too easily.
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Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: turbohf on November 20, 2011, 03:36:45 AM
interesting... i kinda like... although i like symmetry... hope it keeps charge temps down... but i still think the turbo could used swapped around, full length radiator, full length/height intercooler....
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: ratcityrex on November 20, 2011, 02:44:32 PM
I would have kept the ic, and gone with a full sized rad, and flipped the turbo around like Dusting said. But I'm curious to see how it will do hot lapping it.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 20, 2011, 08:11:02 PM
interesting... i kinda like... although i like symmetry... hope it keeps charge temps down... but i still think the turbo could used swapped around, full length radiator, full length/height intercooler....

Trust I thought about what you said a few times. Even more yesterday while I was making the downpipe. Thankfully I have thought the routing before hand so everything fits really snug currently. We will all see if it works when the time comes. I have a few tricks yet to be shown that I am hoping will work to keep temps down to a minimum. I have not seen what I have done either so I will be very pleased to see if it works.

I would have kept the ic, and gone with a full sized rad, and flipped the turbo around like Dusting said. But I'm curious to see how it will do hot lapping it.

This will be the fail safe route if my setup does not work. It will put me behind about $400 to redo it that way I assume so its not too bad for the experiment.
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on November 20, 2011, 08:25:42 PM
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Updated first page with some pics of the little fabrication I had to do so far. Not much but I was very pleased
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: glustic on November 21, 2011, 12:15:53 AM
This setup is moving right along!

On a side note you sure can weld better than buk
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: imburne on April 06, 2012, 02:42:40 PM
Its been a long time since the update but I think its about time. I have been debugging little and big stuff along the line and you can see some of the posts on here from it giving me issues in the process.

Done so far..

1000cc injectors
custom alcohol intercooler/radiator sprayer
Full 3 Inch exhaust
Wideband
Fixed oil pan from a previous owners tap that was right at the bottom of the pan
Painted the piping heat resistant black and used radiator paint for the front of the radiator and intercooler
Car running great

Will be done in the new few days..

Manley Rods
Wiseco Pistons
New (used) crank pulley
New Belts, Water pump, HG
ARP head bolts
Boost Leak test
Fixing the downpipe since the flange was not completely flush to the midpipe

I have driven the car many times and have had no overheating issues so far. Even getting into boost a few times in a short period has not gotten it out of 186f. Last time I drove it was for a 3 hour round trip and it was great
Title: Re: Civic Hatchback, B18C1 with Holset HX35, Road Racing Project
Post by: crxvtec91 on April 08, 2012, 11:17:40 AM
Ripper vid time!